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(Aug 26, 2014 04:32 AM)LiveSupport Wrote:  I have already moved many people to jabber already by just posting a link to a setup on how to get jabber people just need a little push or it will never change and why do you keep discussing payments that's another issue for another day am talking about your privacy when you chat you guys are more confused than a gold fish. I have posted for sellers because this is the best way to make that push.

You can't hide privacy if you're using a traceable payment system.
Not many people have moved to Jabber, just because sellers have, doesn't mean buyers will, ever. Most buyers come here to quickly buy things then never come back, tbh.
(Aug 26, 2014 10:37 AM)Frawshy Wrote:  You can't hide privacy if you're using a traceable payment system.
Not many people have moved to Jabber, just because sellers have, doesn't mean buyers will, ever. Most buyers come here to quickly buy things then never come back, tbh.

1) Private chats will protect you from many things dont even need to name them if you dont know it then i seriously feel sorry for your knowledge base.

2) As I said before I have moved many people to jabber just with my products.
(Aug 26, 2014 10:51 AM)LiveSupport Wrote:  1) Private chats will protect you from many things dont even need to name them if you dont know it then i seriously feel sorry for your knowledge base.

They won't protect you from shit if your payments are easily traceable or if you're talking about it on a public forum. I don't know how you don't understand this.
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(Aug 26, 2014 10:53 AM)Orgy Wrote:  They won't protect you from shit if your payments are easily traceable or if you're talking about it on a public forum. I don't know how you don't understand this.

I only asked sellers to do this as this is the best way to make a push to make a change from skype to jabber as sellers have the most impact in my option to change the customers way of contact. Read my other posts bro and stop blabbing about payments for a second I know that is also a issue but one step at a time Mr Orgy.
(Aug 26, 2014 10:58 AM)LiveSupport Wrote:  I only asked sellers to do this as this is the best way to make a push to make a change from skype to jabber as sellers have the most impact in my option to change the customers way of contact. Read my other posts bro and stop blabbing about payments for a second I know that is also a issue but one step at a time Mr Orgy.

The point regarding the payments is what invalidates your point about privacy. Switching to jabber is pointless for privacy if you're still going to use traceable payment methods and post on public forums.

Additionally, sellers aren't going to switch from Skype because buyers aren't going to switch from Skype. Same reason we still use PayPal.
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(Aug 26, 2014 11:07 AM)Orgy Wrote:  The point regarding the payments is what invalidates your point about privacy. Switching to jabber is pointless for privacy if you're still going to use traceable payment methods and post on public forums.

Additionally, sellers aren't going to switch from Skype because buyers aren't going to switch from Skype. Same reason we still use PayPal.

Change payment methods is more complicated for users than changing to jabber keep this issue for another day HF users are not that advanced where you put in 2 changes at the same time as I say again one step at a time! . Skype has brought way too many issues. AS I said for the third time hopefully this time it gets to you bro third time is always a charm, I am asking sellers because they have the most impact on HF and they way of communication I believe so if users start contacting sellers for products with jabber they will turn jabber into a main source of communication which is what am trying to do as jabber is more safer and secure. I also believed that buyers would not change but I get the same amount of adds i use to get when i had skype and most got jabber with the TUT I posted on top of my thread which shows that it can change just believe in it.



(Aug 26, 2014 11:14 AM)LiveSupport Wrote:  Change payment methods is more complicated for users than changing to jabber keep this issue for another day HF users are not that advanced where you put in 2 changes at the same time as I say again one step at a time! . Skype has brought way too many issues. AS I said for the third time hopefully this time it gets to you bro third time is always a charm, I am asking sellers because they have the most impact on HF and they way of communication I believe so if users start contacting sellers for products with jabber they will turn jabber into a main source of communication which is what am trying to do as jabber is more safer and secure. I also believed that buyers would not change but I get the same amount of adds i use to get when i had skype and most got jabber with the TUT I posted on top of my thread which shows that it can change just believe in it.




You're not going to even get 15% of HF users to switch to Jabber, never will likely. You can't protect yourself using a traceable payment system. If you want privacy, you'll need to change both, you're just making a useless attempt for change.

Also, buyers will NEVER convert over from PayPal, or Skype. It's just easier keeping the norm for everyone. And as Orgy said, we're on a public forum, lol.
(Aug 26, 2014 11:51 AM)Frawshy Wrote:  You're not going to even get 15% of HF users to switch to Jabber, never will likely. You can't protect yourself using a traceable payment system. If you want privacy, you'll need to change both, you're just making a useless attempt for change.

Also, buyers will NEVER convert over from PayPal, or Skype. It's just easier keeping the norm for everyone. And as Orgy said, we're on a public forum, lol.

Your still talking nonsense you are talking about unrelated shit am trying to make a change for private communication which is important for privacy and I already fucking said around 4 times now I know payments are a issue but keep that for another day. People like you stop change because you're scared of it or your too dame lazy. I already said I have moved many people to jabber with just my thread and it does work if we can do this then next step will be payments.
Nobody use Jabber. That's the problem.
(Aug 26, 2014 11:07 AM)Orgy Wrote:  The point regarding the payments is what invalidates your point about privacy. Switching to jabber is pointless for privacy if you're still going to use traceable payment methods and post on public forums.

Additionally, sellers aren't going to switch from Skype because buyers aren't going to switch from Skype. Same reason we still use PayPal.

I'm sure thats not the only reason we still use PayPal. If your business is all legal stuff (whereas OP is on about illegal), PayPal will protect you from scammers easily.
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Barely anyone uses Jabber, if I was to switch my products over I'd lose several customers. Nevertheless, thanks for the warning.
(Aug 27, 2014 05:21 AM)HAX ME IM FAMOUS Wrote:  Barely anyone uses Jabber, if I was to switch my products over I'd lose several customers. Nevertheless, thanks for the warning.

If you link them to a simple TUT on your thread like I have done am sure you will be ok.


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