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Scammed by Anomander Rake (UID=660076)

Scammer Profile Link: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...uid=660076

This guy posted a thread wanting to hire a programmer to make him a reddit upvote bot.
Thread Link: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4483778
Thread Photo: (Click to View)

As written in the thread I added him on skype. Take note of 11:14 PM msg. Skype Logs:
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I helped him over teamviewer.
Starting Time Teamviewer Session: 11:28
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Ending Time Teamviewer Session 11:42
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After that he deleted me from his skype and does not reply to my msgs. I sent him a message at:
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and he has not replied even though he has created a new thread:
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So he said he would pay me if I explained it to him how this worked and so I did through Teamviewer. After I finish working he says he is testing and then removes me from skype without a reply or anything to avoid paying me.

Another Proof that my method worked is that in the skype log he says he has to get better proxies and then he comes here asking for proxies (qty 20) after he has stopped responding to my messages:
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Yes, I said I was hiring for a reddit upvote bot. Turns out that's not what I needed, it was private proxies. You didn't give me a reddit upvote bot OR private proxies. What is it you're even reporting me for?

Edit:

I said I would pay you if you showed me the functionality of what you were suggesting with that link as an alternative to my reddit upvote bot. What you showed me was absolutely nothing new that I didn't know. All he showed me on teamviewer was him running firefox through a proxy. I sat there patiently waiting for him to do something worth watching, and it never came. It was my mistake as I misunderstood what it was he was trying to show me. Nonetheless, I'm not paying you as you have done absolutely nothing for me. Had you actually managed to get me to the goal I was trying to achieve, I would have compensated you. But since A. You didn't, and B. We never agree'd on you getting anything, C. No formal deal was in place, D. no price was specified, what is it you even hope to accomplish here?

tl;dr I asked how to cook a hamburger and you showed me a map with the word "mcdonalds" on it.
(Oct 11, 2014 08:08 AM)Anomander Rake Wrote:  Yes, I said I was hiring for a reddit upvote bot. Turns out that's not what I needed, it was private proxies. You didn't give me a reddit upvote bot OR private proxies. What is it you're even reporting me for?
Are you blind?

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(Oct 11, 2014 08:08 AM)Anomander Rake Wrote:  Yes, I said I was hiring for a reddit upvote bot. Turns out that's not what I needed, it was private proxies. You didn't give me a reddit upvote bot OR private proxies. What is it you're even reporting me for?

Edit:

I said I would pay you if you showed me the functionality of what you were suggesting with that link as an alternative to my reddit upvote bot. What you showed me was absolutely nothing new that I didn't know. All he showed me on teamviewer was him running firefox through a proxy. I sat there patiently waiting for him to do something worth watching, and it never came. It was my mistake as I misunderstood what it was he was trying to show me. Nonetheless, I'm not paying you as you have done absolutely nothing for me. Had you actually managed to get me to the goal I was trying to achieve, I would have compensated you. But since A. You didn't, and B. We never agree'd on you getting anything, C. No formal deal was in place, D. no price was specified, what is it you even hope to accomplish here?

tl;dr I asked how to cook a hamburger and you showed me a map with the word "mcdonalds" on it.
1) You never said suggesting.
2) If it was absolutely nothing new why didn't you state it after the teamviewer session finished in the skype chat logs?
3) Why did you immediatly remove me from skype? You could have just said what you said above?
4) We agreed to you me paying me as per the skype logs.
5) Formal deal was in effect as you replied in positive to my question "the above?" (in context)
6) Price not negotiated does not mean you don't pay me. It could have been negotiated after work was over.
(Oct 11, 2014 08:13 AM)Rvaveo Wrote:  Are you blind?

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Look, this scam report is pathetic and you know it. You're just trying to get money out of me. I'll throw you a bone, though. I said I would pay you for something, you gave me something completely different. But I'll pay for the incorrect product anyway just to fulfill the completely void bargain.

What's your paypal, I'll send you $0.01 since we never agree'd on any sort of payment or price.
(Oct 11, 2014 08:18 AM)Anomander Rake Wrote:  Look, this scam report is pathetic and you know it. You're just trying to get money out of me. I'll throw you a bone, though. I said I would pay you for something, you gave me something completely different. But I'll pay for the incorrect product anyway just to fulfill the completely void bargain.

What's your paypal, I'll send you $0.01 since we never agree'd on any sort of payment or price.

1) It is completely valid scam report.
2) No I am just asking for money for the work I have done.
3) If I gave you something very different then why did you not tell me it was something completely different on skype? I gave you exactly what you wanted.
4) You will pay for my service
5) I will send you paypal once correct price is negotiated.


(Oct 11, 2014 08:18 AM)Anomander Rake Wrote:  Look, this scam report is pathetic and you know it. You're just trying to get money out of me. I'll throw you a bone, though. I said I would pay you for something, you gave me something completely different. But I'll pay for the incorrect product anyway just to fulfill the completely void bargain.

What's your paypal, I'll send you $0.01 since we never agree'd on any sort of payment or price.

You can pay me 8$ for this service. 🤝
I will send you private message if you agree.
1) You never said suggesting.

What?

2) If it was absolutely nothing new why didn't you state it after the teamviewer session finished in the skype chat logs?

Because you were sending me a "proxy scraper". I was unfamiliar with the term, and once I downloaded and understood the functionality of it, I realized I was wasting my time with you, and that I was getting nowhere.

3) Why did you immediatly remove me from skype? You could have just said what you said above?

You're right, I could have, but I didn't.

4) We agreed to you me paying me as per the skype logs.

There was no real agreement. Even if there had been, you really didn't fulfill anything. I am no closer to my goal, at all.

5) Formal deal was in effect as you replied in positive to my question "the above?" (in context)

Again, what?

6) Price not negotiated does not mean you don't pay me. It could have been negotiated after work was over.

You're right, except there was no work done. You spent 5 minutes on teamviewer showing me shit I already knew how to do.

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tl;dr - Disgruntled that I removed you on Skype without saying anything, and for that I appologize. However, still a completely pointless scam report. You lost nothing, you gave nothing, you performed nothing, and there was no real deal to begin with.


(Oct 11, 2014 08:22 AM)Rvaveo Wrote:  1) It is completely valid scam report.
2) No I am just asking for money for the work I have done.
3) If I gave you something very different then why did you not tell me it was something completely different on skype? I gave you exactly what you wanted.
4) You will pay for my service
5) I will send you paypal once correct price is negotiated.



You can pay me 8$ for this service. 🤝
I will send you private message if you agree.

Anyway. I'm done. Good luck with your scam report. I'm going to go ahead and take the "massive risk" of someone checking my rep, clicking the link, and seeing this amalgamation of "ineffable logic".
(Oct 11, 2014 08:25 AM)Anomander Rake Wrote:  1) You never said suggesting.

What?

2) If it was absolutely nothing new why didn't you state it after the teamviewer session finished in the skype chat logs?

Because you were sending me a "proxy scraper". I was unfamiliar with the term, and once I downloaded and understood the functionality of it, I realized I was wasting my time with you, and that I was getting nowhere.

3) Why did you immediatly remove me from skype? You could have just said what you said above?

You're right, I could have, but I didn't.

4) We agreed to you me paying me as per the skype logs.

There was no real agreement. Even if there had been, you really didn't fulfill anything. I am no closer to my goal, at all.

5) Formal deal was in effect as you replied in positive to my question "the above?" (in context)

Again, what?

6) Price not negotiated does not mean you don't pay me. It could have been negotiated after work was over.

You're right, except there was no work done. You spent 5 minutes on teamviewer showing me shit I already knew how to do.

tl;dr - Disgruntled that I removed you on Skype without saying anything, and for that I appologize. However, still a completely pointless scam report. You lost nothing, you gave nothing, you performed nothing, and there was no real deal to begin with.



Anyway. I'm done. Good luck with your scam report. I'm going to go ahead and take the "massive risk" of someone checking my rep, clicking the link, and seeing this amalgamation of "ineffable logic".

1)You spent 5 minutes on teamviewer?
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Ending Time Teamviewer Session 11:42
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2) You're right, except there was no work done. showing me shit I already knew how to do.

Do you have any proof that no work was done?
If you really knew what I was doing you would have stated right there in skype but you didn't so you didn't know what I was doing.

3) Because you were sending me a "proxy scraper".I was unfamiliar with the term

So you are contradicting what you said earlier proving that you are lying.

4)Again, what?

As stated in the skype this makes it a formal deal.

5) There was no real agreement. Even if there had been, you really didn't fulfill anything. I am no closer to my goal, at all.

Real agreement has been established through skype text. I did fulfill your requirements. You have no proof that I didn't nor did you state in skype that I did not fulfill you requirements.
Legit scam report. OP showed him how to do it and the person buying the service realised how to do it and thought he could do it himself without paying. Pay the OP his $8 I reckon.
(Oct 11, 2014 09:01 AM)chopsticks Wrote:  Legit scam report. OP showed him how to do it and the person buying the service realised how to do it and thought he could do it himself without paying. Pay the OP his $8 I reckon.

Thanks for the support mate. The scammer resorts to making claims without providing any proof.
(Oct 11, 2014 09:01 AM)chopsticks Wrote:  Legit scam report. OP showed him how to do it and the person buying the service realised how to do it and thought he could do it himself without paying. Pay the OP his $8 I reckon.

Incorrect. He showed me how to do something I already was fully aware of. Let's say I approach you and say "I can show you how to make money online, if you pay me." You agree, and I pop open teamviewer and go to www.ebay.com and say "You can sell stuff here. Now pay me $8", you would then be facepalming as hard as I am now.

I will, however, agree to pay you just to get this shit over with. However, I do not agree with the price of $8. Your service was worth $1. You can take that, or leave it. No amount of bullshitting will convince anyone that I ever agree'd to any price you set, because you never set one.
(Oct 11, 2014 09:35 AM)Anomander Rake Wrote:  Incorrect. He showed me how to do something I already was fully aware of. Let's say I approach you and say "I can show you how to make money online, if you pay me." You agree, and I pop open teamviewer and go to www.ebay.com and say "You can sell stuff here. Now pay me $8", you would then be facepalming as hard as I am now.

I will, however, agree to pay you just to get this shit over with. However, I do not agree with the price of $8. Your service was worth $1. You can take that, or leave it. No amount of bullshitting will convince anyone that I ever agree'd to any price you set, because you never set one.

HM. This whole thing is kind of sad. I say his service was worth at least $4 for the time it would have taken
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(Oct 11, 2014 09:46 AM)ναρє Wrote:  HM. This whole thing is kind of sad. I say his service was worth at least $4 for the time it would have taken

Why would I pay someone $4 to download me a firefox addon and put in proxies? I knew this shit. Everyone knows this shit. My computer illiterate grandmother probably knows you can do this. I sat there on teamviewer waiting for him to do something special, thinking "Surely there's going to be something else", and there never was. Unless you count him linking me to a program which essentially was the equivalent of me typing "Proxy list" into google. I'm offering $1 simply for him to quit complaining. He doesn't deserve that, even. That $1 is a pittance, not for the "service".

Had he showed me something worth viewing, I would have gladly paid him. I always do. But I'm not a charity.
(Oct 11, 2014 09:53 AM)Anomander Rake Wrote:  Why would I pay someone $4 to download me a firefox addon and put in proxies? I knew this shit. Everyone knows this shit. My computer illiterate grandmother probably knows you can do this. I sat there on teamviewer waiting for him to do something special, thinking "Surely there's going to be something else", and there never was. Unless you count him linking me to a program which essentially was the equivalent of me typing "Proxy list" into google. I'm offering $1 simply for him to quit complaining. He doesn't deserve that, even. That $1 is a pittance, not for the "service".

Had he showed me something worth viewing, I would have gladly paid him. I always do. But I'm not a charity.

I can understand where you are coming from if he really didn't show you anything valuable at all.
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(Oct 11, 2014 09:35 AM)Anomander Rake Wrote:  Incorrect. He showed me how to do something I already was fully aware of. Let's say I approach you and say "I can show you how to make money online, if you pay me." You agree, and I pop open teamviewer and go to www.ebay.com and say "You can sell stuff here. Now pay me $8", you would then be facepalming as hard as I am now.

I will, however, agree to pay you just to get this shit over with. However, I do not agree with the price of $8. Your service was worth $1. You can take that, or leave it. No amount of bullshitting will convince anyone that I ever agree'd to any price you set, because you never set one.

You say repeatedly that I was showing you something you knew but you bring no proof that you knew that already.


(Oct 11, 2014 09:53 AM)Anomander Rake Wrote:  Why would I pay someone $4 to download me a firefox addon and put in proxies? I knew this shit. Everyone knows this shit. My computer illiterate grandmother probably knows you can do this. I sat there on teamviewer waiting for him to do something special, thinking "Surely there's going to be something else", and there never was. Unless you count him linking me to a program which essentially was the equivalent of me typing "Proxy list" into google. I'm offering $1 simply for him to quit complaining. He doesn't deserve that, even. That $1 is a pittance, not for the "service".

Had he showed me something worth viewing, I would have gladly paid him. I always do. But I'm not a charity.

Really you knew this? You never stated that you knew this? Can you prove in any way that you knew this except stating it without any proof?

I have proof that I offered you a service. During this service you did not mention at any point of time that you knew this. After that you remove me from your skype to avoid paying me.


(Oct 11, 2014 09:55 AM)ναρє Wrote:  I can understand where you are coming from if he really didn't show you anything valuable at all.

Does he have any proof to prove that I showed him anything that he already knew? He does not state it in skype chat? He does not state that after/before teamviewer session? He does not state it when I gave him a link to firefox forums?

Clearly this kid does not know anything and is just lying.


(Oct 11, 2014 09:46 AM)ναρє Wrote:  HM. This whole thing is kind of sad. I say his service was worth at least $4 for the time it would have taken

Well since you have said it to be according to you $4 I would agree to close this dispute on recieving $4.


(Oct 11, 2014 09:55 AM)ναρє Wrote:  I can understand where you are coming from if he really didn't show you anything valuable at all.

Look at this and tell me if it shows that he knew anything I was going to do:
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You'll take $1 to close the dispute. The dispute is on that you didn't get paid, not that you didn't get paid the right amount (which was never specified). $1 is what your information was worth to me (not even that, really). If you won't accept whats being offered, then I believe the dispute is null.


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