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Incapability & kpown (UID: 2484853 & 2808710) - Illegal ebooks + More

Moved from here: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5433754

Moved from Marketplace discussions to Deal disputes, as it has been Over 2 weeks and both scammers have not refunded me, nor anyone else who bought this illegal junk.

USERS INVOLVED:
Incapability (UID: 2484853) - Illegal ebook seller, false advertising, partner of kpown, DOX'ing HF members.
kpown (UID: 2808710) - Illegal ebook seller, partner of incapability

Claims against these users:
1. Sold ILLEGAL ebooks promoting extortion & blackmail (illegal) and will not refund me
2. Falsely advertised such ebooks as LEGAL
3. DOX'ing me simply because I alerted him that I was making this report. (kpown was not involved in this but rather Incapability.

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Source: Disallowed BlackHat Activity - Disallowed Blackhat Activity

Brief Updates:
- I was offered a refund by kpown, who was as cooperative as he could be until he was "threatened" (he would not tell me by who) and therefor could no longer cooperate. Though he did offer a refund and the offer still stands, which is appreciated.
- I was REFUSED refund (at first) by Incapability until I threatened to make a community alert. Though since I am not allowed to post PM's (as far as I know?) I can't prove this claim. I know that currently others are not being granted refunds for this falsely advertised ebook.
- Incapability also tried to make a community report against me shortly after I made this one, which contains nothing more than false accusations and un-provable claims, it was closed shortly after he made it:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5433767

More information as well as proof to backup my claims is below.
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Greetings.

I usually try and keep out of making deal disputes/community alerts when possible and try to resolve any issues I have with members, though this specific member has broken way to many HF policies as well as personally targeted me as a user here on HF, for me to not make a report.

Claim 1 Selling illegal ebooks
Thread URL: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5421756

The thread was selling their "GUAP FAUCET" as a money making system that allowed you to "make immoral and unethical money" while somehow being whitehat.
The ebook was sold by the user "[url=https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=2808710"]kpown[/url] who stated he was partnered with Incapability in the thread.

Proof that this ebook is ILLEGAL
The very intro itself says that it's illegal, I need say no more when it comes to their methods, which I will not share as it may be considered leaking. I want to state that NO WHERE IN THIS EBOOK does it state that it is for "educational purposes" nor does it say that the ebook may lead to illegal ramifications if you are caught. Blackmail is against the law, no matter who you do it to, and you will be prosecuted if you are not careful.

The content of the ebook was luring pedophiles and holding them for ransom. Which comes under blackmail and extortion which is illegal in most countries. Anyone who used this Ebook who was lead to believe that this was NOT illegal could have faced legal ramifications and possibly jail time IF they were prosecuted.

Just to clarify:
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GUAP FAUCET's Intro:
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Despite being pointed out by multiple members that this was "e-whoring" (in fact it was, on a WHOLE NEW ILLEGAL LEVEL) they denied these claims:
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Claim 2 Advertising the illegal ebooks as legal

The thread design below is the thread design for the accused ebook, in which shows NO INFORMATION that the ebook involved ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, EXTORTION or BLACKMAIL as the main concept of the ebook:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Credits to Neko for providing this information.

Claim 3 - Dox'ing me after calling him out that his ebook was against HF policy
This image in the spoiler below is really all I need to say for this claim. He found an address where I used to live, and my name, that is DOX'ing. While this is allowed (or not?) on HF...He is dox'ing an innocent user simply for calling him out on his wrong doings.
Spoiler (Click to View)


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I ask all that before posting, read all of the information above. Always deal with caution here on HF, safe dealing.

- Maximus.
Why are you posting again? We offered to refund, you didn't want it. kthx
(Oct 31, 2016 12:40 AM)๖ۣۜEnlightened Wrote:  You never refunded all of your other buyers, before you refund me you refund them as you scammed them.
I posted my address in the previous thread, and neither of you refunded me.

Who are our previous buyers? exactly. We have next to none. Also, we refunded that other guy.

-- this will be my last post on this thread because you are an incompetent idiot. --
(Oct 31, 2016 12:44 AM)๖ۣۜEnlightened Wrote:  Again, I have not been refunded
Neither has Neko, as far as he told me
No, the only incompetent idiot here is you, who thought selling and illegal ebook that taught people how to blackmail pedophiles was a good idea.

Send me your btc address, I'll send you my half ($10) and the rest is upto kpown, you remove me from this deal dispute. I'll also refund my half on neko ($10) even though idek if he bought the ebook, but please just stop being a little bickering bitch that drags things out for such a long time lmao. It's sad how you're so butthurt. Send me your BTC addy via pm, or post here so people can see the transaction if you're going to be that skeptical and they can see the transaction.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.. but I think you should send proof that they are selling illegal eBooks to a mod/admin so they can handle their accounts appropriately.

Blackhat shit is super against the rules here and usually results in an account closure.
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(Oct 31, 2016 12:48 AM)Buffy Summers Wrote:  Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.. but I think you should send proof that they are selling illegal eBooks to a mod/admin so they can handle their accounts appropriately.

Blackhat shit is super against the rules here and usually results in an account closure.

I believe I already got a warning for it, but I removed the thread etc and took all precautions to ensure it won't happen again. Still waiting for maximus btc addy, will only be on for another 35 minutes before I have to go study for an exam.
(Oct 31, 2016 12:49 AM)๖ۣۜEnlightened Wrote:  The fact you are sending me $10 doesn't excuse the fact that you DOX'd me, sold an illegal ebook, and broke several other HF policies.
I want a full refund. You talk to kpown about it. When I get the full sum I'll mention it in the OP and get a mod to move this back to Marketplace discussions

Doxing isn't against HF rules? You gonna make a report about that ? 🤗 (also it wasn't me, a lot of people hate you)

I'll talk to kpown, may take a while because of the timezone situation.

Also forgive me If I'm wrong, you junked the last thread and reposted as a bump? Isn't that against the rules?
(Oct 31, 2016 12:51 AM)problems.x Wrote:  Doxing isn't against HF rules? You gonna make a report about that ? 🤗 (also it wasn't me, a lot of people hate you)

I'll talk to kpown, may take a while because of the timezone situation.

Also forgive me If I'm wrong, you junked the last thread and reposted as a bump? Isn't that against the rules?

You can't dox a HF member. That is definitely against the rules.
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(Oct 31, 2016 12:55 AM)๖ۣۜEnlightened Wrote:  As far as I know it is against the rules, it isn't when it is done to someone you've been scammed by (I've looked into this) in an effort to recoup what you have scammed.. Either way still doesn't excuse that you sold an illegal ebook involving extortion and blackmail.
No, For starters I can't junk (not uber) and I reposted as you scammed me therefor it belongs in deal disputes. I locked the last thread and redirected it here.
First of all, do a quick search: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id41711046

Second of all: Okay, I have contacted kpown, waiting for his response :)
(Oct 31, 2016 12:54 AM)Buffy Summers Wrote:  You can't dox a HF member. That is definitely against the rules.

Pretty sure you can, you just can't threaten them nor leak information. Unless Incapability did either of those I'm pretty sure he's in the clear on that. Don't quote me on this though, just what I've comprehended regarding that sort of area.
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(Oct 31, 2016 12:57 AM)problems.x Wrote:  First of all, do a quick search: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id41711046

Second of all: Okay, I have contacted kpown, waiting for his response :)

Either way, we deserve to know what type of members we are dealing with. Many wouldn't use PP with a member who may try and dox you over nothing.
I can't come out tonight, my Bic lighter don't light.
(Oct 31, 2016 05:31 AM)๖ۣۜEnlightened Wrote:  Again, even if you refund you still broke HF rules and dox'd me because I threatened to post this thread. You are only agreeing to refund because I've taken it this farz
I'm not closing/marking this as resolved as the community deserves to know you are a scammer, a fraudster and someone who shouldn't be trusted, end of story.

If he repays you then this should be marked as resolved, if you want to warn the community then make a community alert.
(Nov 9, 2016 09:23 PM)๖ۣۜEnlightened Wrote:  Bump. Still no refund received.

Omni respond?
ASVPS TILL DEATH.
(Oct 31, 2016 12:41 AM)problems.x Wrote:  Who are our previous buyers? exactly. We have next to none. Also, we refunded that other guy.

-- this will be my last post on this thread because you are an incompetent idiot. --
4 posts later🙃🙃

Sorry to hear about this OP. Hope you get the refund back!
Sorry to hear about that just wanna add I've seen that method idk how many times before too.
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