I support that idea. Enough with rep-farmers selling shit. If they want to make money they should stop being asses and work to learn a money making method. I would be investing in products and tools but the way the marketplace is, almost every product has 0% ROI.
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Dec 28, 2016 08:44 PM
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(Dec 28, 2016 08:05 PM)James Burnham Wrote: I support that idea. Enough with rep-farmers selling shit. If they want to make money they should stop being asses and work to learn a money making method. I would be investing in products and tools but the way the marketplace is, almost every product has 0% ROI.Glad to hear someone respected agrees with me. You are right about the ROI, I have received $20 after spending $125 on eBooks. Worst part is that there is reviews that are honest, but nobody would think they are. (I.E) https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id53590328 (Bit of an advertisement by me, but you get my point.) (Dec 28, 2016 07:51 PM)Mr Whiskey Wrote: How to improve the Marketplace:I do not disagree with this, but it will never happen. (Dec 28, 2016 07:52 PM)NYCVN Wrote: I think the marketplace is just fine, you just gotta do something about those scammers.eBook sellers often do not test their own eBooks. Fake vouches and fake revenue to deceive costumers is the same thing as scamming. Scamming defined: a dishonest scheme; a fraud. There is no insouciance from eBook sellers and since there is nothing against the rules about it, nothing can happen to them. It does not matter to them if their ebook is complete utter bullshit. It's a game of odds when it comes to eBooks, and the odds are against buyers. I do not think this is how the marketplace should be at all. If I were to purchase 10 eBooks, I would like to have 7 out of 10 work well, not 4 out of 10. Luckily, the only eBook I purchased was simple, yet worked. It had to do with winning paypal disputes. 🤝 When it comes to the rest of the marketplace: You can use a middle man (i.e Axis or Minimalist) and be pretty certain that you are not going to get robbed blindly. Personally, I have only been scammed once out of 500+ transactions? Paypal is the only risky part to any transaction. Just be cautious when dealing with someone. There is no true way of stopping someone from running off with $10 BTC of yours. There are many, many issues with the marketplace, and there is no way of fixing them all. My goal is not to fix the marketplace perfect; I know it's not possible. The vision is just to make it a better place for buyers. Buyers will have to maintain self-responsibility; they'll still have to watch for schemes for themselves. Code 
Dec 28, 2016 09:09 PM
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(Dec 28, 2016 08:53 PM)henry Wrote: Having 'reviewers' accept a product before sales would be nice but many 'reviewers' will look the other way overtimeThere probably will never be Reviewers to approve of or accept certain threads again. I have mixed feelings about the previous version... 'Reviewers' (my version) will be operated by a usergroup. As the owner and leader, I would verify reviews at random. This would ensure they are not act in a corrupt manner. Of course, I would have to get approval from the person selling the product before my eyes see the eBook or product. If I have suspicion or proof a member has gone rogue, then he or she will removed with no hesitation. I will, on a regular basis, investigate reviews to ensure they are not giving an advantage or disadvantage to any member. (Dec 28, 2016 08:56 PM)James Burnham Wrote: If they look the other way, then they should be replaced by better reviewers. There are hundreds of people willing to help.I agree, there are many users that would take the time to do reviews. All I have to do is find the right individuals to fulfill the (unpaid) job. In the case that someone is removed from the group, then they may be replaced down the road; it depends on the given situation. (Dec 28, 2016 08:58 PM)Prophett Wrote: The return of Reviewers sounds like a good idea. Red Lions have also opened a service which I have not yet seen in practice.Thank you for supporting the idea. I have not really looked into the Red Lions service, but I will look into it. Again, thank you, but this time for bringing that to my attention. Keep in mind, this is an idea that came to me today. There is still months (TBD how many) until this would be FINANCIALLY possible. I have yet to get approved by Omni to purchase a group. Although I want the marketplace to be better, I don't know if I want to spend thousands in order for that to happen. There is plenty of time for me to figure out details and whatnot IF approved. Code 
Dec 28, 2016 09:43 PM
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Wouldn't people just leak all the e-books if this was implemented, also e-books are all trash why would someone actually purchase any. It's common sense if someone is selling a method why wouldn't they use it for themselves.
(Dec 28, 2016 07:52 PM)NYCVN Wrote: I think the marketplace is just fine, you just gotta do something about those scammers. ^ This, moderators are not banning users that have like 10 open scam reports it's crazy how black shadow and all these high rep people can scam. (Dec 28, 2016 09:43 PM)Truly Wrote: Wouldn't people just leak all the e-books if this was implemented, also e-books are all trash why would someone actually purchase any. It's common sense if someone is selling a method why wouldn't they use it for themselves.CPA methods are very hard to saturate so selling info on these doesn't damage the seller. Also, there are people that are switching methods and niches. Someone may switch from adult niche to fitness. He can sell his adult niche method after he moves on. HF marketplace can become better, it needs effort though.
Dec 28, 2016 09:52 PM
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(Dec 28, 2016 09:43 PM)Truly Wrote: Wouldn't people just leak all the e-books if this was implemented, also e-books are all trash why would someone actually purchase any. It's common sense if someone is selling a method why wouldn't they use it for themselves.Not all eBooks are trash. In fact, the only one I purchased (besides buying ownership of eBooks) worked very well. It was a simple method to win paypal disputes, but it worked very well. I spent $10 on the eBook and by using it I saved 75+ USD. Also, giving vouch copies is already a risk of having the method leaked. Reputable and trustworthy members would not bother leaking methods. They have so much to lose and little to nothing to gain from leaking from that. While I understand and agree with staff not getting involved in deals, they should be banning scammers. (Dec 28, 2016 09:49 PM)James Burnham Wrote: CPA methods are very hard to saturate so selling info on these doesn't damage the seller.Well said. Btw: As for the Red Lions post, I do not think it was deleted, I saw it a day or a few days ago. May just be hard to fine, I am not sure though. Code (Dec 28, 2016 09:49 PM)James Burnham Wrote: CPA methods are very hard to saturate so selling info on these doesn't damage the seller. Yeah I agree the marketplace could be improved, we just need some sort of rating system for threads so if the product that is being sold is faulty users will know about it before purchasing. (Dec 28, 2016 09:56 PM)Truly Wrote: Yeah I agree the marketplace could be improved, we just need some sort of rating system for threads so if the product that is being sold is faulty users will know about it before purchasing.But that already exists? http://image.prntscr.com/image/ffc2000af...48a1b3.png Are you speaking about a separate rating, for the product itself? Code |
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