Hey y'all
First of all, I'm just trying to improve the forum not hating. I'm aware that I can leave anytime if I don't like the forum, but I had to get this out.
I thought it would be interesting to describe the way I experienced my first few days on the Forums, so here we go.
Positive
1. There is so much to learn here. Even though some posts are pure cancer, you'll learn a lot because of the informative posts here. I really enjoyed this, a lot of new doors open for you.
2. The marketplace is a really cool thing, there is so much variety on what you can purchase. Most listed things are unfindable on normal marketplaces or other forums.
Negative
These things really bothered me and are the main reason I made this thread. Ofcourse there are more positives than negatives and I didn't list ALL the positives there are, but these few things make HF a really bad place for newcomers, PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I can understand this forum WANTS new people, not bully them away. Newcomers are good for the financial health, fresh knowledge and brothership.
1. "You must have a positive reputation score to post in our Marketplace. Please read our Help Docs."
Reputation for the marketplace is a very weird idea. I learned that reputation is a subject that is very sensetive for most, so I'll probably receive some because of talking about it, but that's fine. I don't understand why you need positive reputation in order to post in the marketplace. Especially sub-forums like "Marketplace Discussion, Deal disputes, appraisal and finally the worst of them all Free Services and Giveaways. This means that if I got scammed I can't report someone, if I want to give things for free away I can't make a thread, if I want to appraise something for someone I can't, if I want to discuss any marketplace rules or anything marketplace related I can't. Why not use xx amount of posts/registered time/upgrades/payments/let newbs post in certain sections of the marketplace or not able to create threads, WHATEVER.
2. "You made this because you have negative reputation, just contribute and get positive". That's the second problem that I occured. I've helped like 15-20 people so far, no one gave any fucks. And ofcourse because I'm new, my knowledge is limited. So most of the times there isn't even much I CAN do. Out of these people I helped, only 1 person thanked me. Then I visited the vice section and made fun of someone who said "Doesn't make cents" instead of "Doesn't make sense", this gained me a -3. So helping 15 people eventually gave me a -3. Basically you've got to lick the ass of everyone who is upgraded, is that really what you want? Why can't new members just be themselves without getting limitations. Negative reputation shouldn't influence where you can post, this gives UB3RS too much power.
3. Discrimination. People look to new members as scammers, I can't even deal properly. The moment I had +1 rep for minutes, I tried to get informed about a forum that was for sale. I got the following reply:
"Would rather not sell the site to a new member with little rep."
and
"'I've been scammed countless times by newer members. I'd rather deal with a member that knows the forums and is trusted across it."
So... If 5 black guys stole out of your store today, you'll hang a sign with "NO BLACK PEOPLE" inside your store. I don't understand, he appearently is dumb enough to get scammed by not using a trusted escrow. It works on every other forum, you just use a middleman. Why can't a new member like me use a middleman and end up with a safe and smooth deal?
That was it, it's more of a rant now.. Sorry for that, just want to make this forum better than it is already.
tl;dr Be more nice to newcomers!
Have a good day 👍
First of all, I'm just trying to improve the forum not hating. I'm aware that I can leave anytime if I don't like the forum, but I had to get this out.
I thought it would be interesting to describe the way I experienced my first few days on the Forums, so here we go.
Positive
1. There is so much to learn here. Even though some posts are pure cancer, you'll learn a lot because of the informative posts here. I really enjoyed this, a lot of new doors open for you.
2. The marketplace is a really cool thing, there is so much variety on what you can purchase. Most listed things are unfindable on normal marketplaces or other forums.
Negative
These things really bothered me and are the main reason I made this thread. Ofcourse there are more positives than negatives and I didn't list ALL the positives there are, but these few things make HF a really bad place for newcomers, PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I can understand this forum WANTS new people, not bully them away. Newcomers are good for the financial health, fresh knowledge and brothership.
1. "You must have a positive reputation score to post in our Marketplace. Please read our Help Docs."
Reputation for the marketplace is a very weird idea. I learned that reputation is a subject that is very sensetive for most, so I'll probably receive some because of talking about it, but that's fine. I don't understand why you need positive reputation in order to post in the marketplace. Especially sub-forums like "Marketplace Discussion, Deal disputes, appraisal and finally the worst of them all Free Services and Giveaways. This means that if I got scammed I can't report someone, if I want to give things for free away I can't make a thread, if I want to appraise something for someone I can't, if I want to discuss any marketplace rules or anything marketplace related I can't. Why not use xx amount of posts/registered time/upgrades/payments/let newbs post in certain sections of the marketplace or not able to create threads, WHATEVER.
2. "You made this because you have negative reputation, just contribute and get positive". That's the second problem that I occured. I've helped like 15-20 people so far, no one gave any fucks. And ofcourse because I'm new, my knowledge is limited. So most of the times there isn't even much I CAN do. Out of these people I helped, only 1 person thanked me. Then I visited the vice section and made fun of someone who said "Doesn't make cents" instead of "Doesn't make sense", this gained me a -3. So helping 15 people eventually gave me a -3. Basically you've got to lick the ass of everyone who is upgraded, is that really what you want? Why can't new members just be themselves without getting limitations. Negative reputation shouldn't influence where you can post, this gives UB3RS too much power.
3. Discrimination. People look to new members as scammers, I can't even deal properly. The moment I had +1 rep for minutes, I tried to get informed about a forum that was for sale. I got the following reply:
"Would rather not sell the site to a new member with little rep."
and
"'I've been scammed countless times by newer members. I'd rather deal with a member that knows the forums and is trusted across it."
So... If 5 black guys stole out of your store today, you'll hang a sign with "NO BLACK PEOPLE" inside your store. I don't understand, he appearently is dumb enough to get scammed by not using a trusted escrow. It works on every other forum, you just use a middleman. Why can't a new member like me use a middleman and end up with a safe and smooth deal?
That was it, it's more of a rant now.. Sorry for that, just want to make this forum better than it is already.
tl;dr Be more nice to newcomers!
Have a good day 👍
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