Feb 11, 2018 09:24 AM
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https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=2860026
excepting a full refund even after services are rendered threatening to open a scam report even after i offer to send him a partial refund via bitcoin. it says in my terms of service on my thread only partial refund will be expected if work is rendered.
now he is trying to strong arm me into paying him back in full he is being childish and immature.
https://blockchain.info/tx/c24bb06f78d59...04bceb5ac9
a gesture of good faith payment to him after he finally decided to give me his bitcoin address.
ill be sending some more to him after i get some in paypal even.
i tried to remain peaceful but he turned childish also he tried to pay me at one point in something called a magicalbutter for making hemp products after he saw a thread of mine on cbd.
he expects 35 out of 50 for a project i did infact finish. Nope he will get another 15 out of me but in general I will not pay back almost a full payment i sent him 15 in bitcoin witch he can exchange with the current 1.5 ratio and actually get more but thats it.
he is a time waster for the most part and childish he likes to twist peoples words up. i won't be dealing with this person anymore.
i offered partial refunds based on the terms of service in my thread it was there when he hired me and will remain there,
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5791382 my thread of witch he hired me out of.
excepting a full refund even after services are rendered threatening to open a scam report even after i offer to send him a partial refund via bitcoin. it says in my terms of service on my thread only partial refund will be expected if work is rendered.
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[2/10/2018 11:57:53 AM] TWS: nah man i did we had to go and get a hotel room
[2/10/2018 11:58:13 AM] TWS: and btw opening a community alert on me because you changed your mind won't look well for one person
[2/10/2018 11:58:15 AM] TWS: you
[2/10/2018 11:58:29 AM] TWS: the guy who brought out
[2/10/2018 11:58:35 AM] TWS: the fuel for our heating system
[2/10/2018 11:58:39 AM] TWS: over filled the tank
[2/10/2018 11:58:48 AM] TWS: and it was over flowing onto the basement floor
[2/10/2018 11:58:54 AM] TWS: the fumes were gonna kill us
[2/10/2018 11:58:59 AM] TWS: thats why i did not get back to u
[2/10/2018 11:59:02 AM] TWS: so chill bro
[2/10/2018 11:59:02 AM] Tyler: You didn't do anything on the software, and sorry to hear about that man but I notified you well before you did any real work on the software
[2/10/2018 11:59:09 AM] Tyler: But you're posting on HF?
[2/10/2018 11:59:15 AM] TWS: no i did work on the software
[2/10/2018 11:59:21 AM] TWS: it's called a tablet man
[2/10/2018 11:59:25 AM] TWS: and free wifi
[2/10/2018 11:59:26 AM] Tyler: Well I told you to stop yesterday?
[2/10/2018 11:59:28 AM] TWS: at the hotel
[2/10/2018 11:59:31 AM] Tyler: So why are you still working on it?
[2/10/2018 11:59:37 AM] TWS: no you told me after the job was done
[2/10/2018 12:00:13 PM] TWS: dude relax i understand your hurting for the cash
[2/10/2018 12:00:13 PM] Tyler: The job isn't done
[2/10/2018 12:00:20 PM] Tyler: You didn't even start. Show me right now than
[2/10/2018 12:00:30 PM] Tyler: Show me a gif right now or I'm opening a scam report
[2/10/2018 12:00:34 PM] TWS: if you don't want the software that i've already finished then so be it i can find another buyer for it.
[2/10/2018 12:00:42 PM] Tyler: Alright let's see it
[2/10/2018 12:00:44 PM] TWS: scam? DUDE YOU CHANGED YOUR MIND YOU DON'T EVEN WANT IT
[2/10/2018 12:00:50 PM] TWS: LET ME FINISH WHAT I'M SAYING
[2/10/2018 12:00:52 PM] TWS: AND RELAX
[2/10/2018 12:00:57 PM] TWS: i can find another buyer for it
[2/10/2018 12:01:02 PM] TWS: and give u a partial refund
[2/10/2018 12:01:04 PM] TWS: so chill
[2/10/2018 12:01:06 PM] TWS: out
[2/10/2018 12:01:06 PM] Tyler: Let's see it?
[2/10/2018 12:01:10 PM] Tyler: Waiting...
[2/10/2018 12:01:16 PM] TWS: let me wake up man damn
[2/10/2018 12:01:50 PM] TWS: and you opening a scam report after i finished the job will only look bad on you. if i don't give you a preview give me just a second and ill send u a screen shot
[2/10/2018 12:01:53 PM] TWS: holy shit
[2/10/2018 12:02:05 PM] Tyler: Show me a gif of it extracting data
[2/10/2018 12:02:34 PM] TWS: dude give me just a min i just got up and got through the door from the hotel.
[2/10/2018 12:02:42 PM] TWS: relax for a second no one is scamming anyone
[2/10/2018 12:02:56 PM] TWS: i've got several clients from hackforums who know i do not scam.
[2/10/2018 12:03:08 PM] TWS: but yet your the 2nd person claiming they wanna open one
[2/10/2018 12:03:20 PM] TWS: my dude bipolarz on there can vouch i do deliver the goods
[2/10/2018 12:03:26 PM] TWS: so there is no need
[2/10/2018 12:03:28 PM] Tyler: Because why would you keep working on i when I said stop?
Like explain that?
[2/10/2018 12:03:29 PM] TWS: for over reaction
[2/10/2018 12:03:33 PM] TWS: dude
[2/10/2018 12:03:37 PM] TWS: YOU TOLD ME TO STOP
[2/10/2018 12:03:38 PM] TWS: AFTER
[2/10/2018 12:03:39 PM] TWS: I FINISHED
[2/10/2018 12:03:45 PM] TWS: SO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT
[2/10/2018 12:04:03 PM] Tyler: No, I can go back you didn't mention you "finished" it until way aftter
[2/10/2018 12:04:14 PM] Tyler: and you showed me some generic code that didn't have anything to do with that program
[2/10/2018 12:04:28 PM] TWS: tell me do you read csharp?
[2/10/2018 12:04:29 PM] Tyler: I showed it to my buddy who codes and he said that could be from anywhere
[2/10/2018 12:04:41 PM] TWS: well your buddy cannot code very well then
[2/10/2018 12:04:55 PM] TWS: because he don't read other peoples code very well
[2/10/2018 12:05:24 PM] Tyler: He's a full stack developer for a startup making over $100 a hour but okay tell me more..
[2/10/2018 12:05:39 PM] Tyler: Anyways, I'm waiting on that gif.
[2/10/2018 12:06:06 PM] Tyler: And yet you just said you where working on my software yesterday at the hotel with free wifi so that doesn't make sense lol
[2/10/2018 12:06:12 PM] TWS: dude if you would stfu for 5 minutes i can get it for u chill tf out and let me gather it for u
[2/10/2018 12:06:24 PM] TWS: you make no sense dude i was at the motel after i talked to you
[2/10/2018 12:06:32 PM] TWS: stop twisting shit up
[2/10/2018 12:06:35 PM] Tyler: Yeah so why would you keep working on the software?
[2/10/2018 12:06:39 PM] Tyler: After I told you to stop?
[2/10/2018 12:06:41 PM] Tyler: My point?
[2/10/2018 12:07:22 PM] TWS: omfg MY POINT IS SHUT THE FUCK UP AND READ WHAT I AM SAYING....I FINISHED THE SOFTWARE BEFORE YOU TOLD ME TO STOP IS WHAT I'M SAYING YOUR GETTING WORKED UP OVER NOTHING. I MORE THEN LIKELY MISS WORDED IT A SECOND AGO
[2/10/2018 12:07:37 PM] TWS: FINISHED IT BEFORE WE EVEN STARTED TALKING YESTERDAY
[2/10/2018 12:07:51 PM] TWS: SO WOULD YOU PLEASE JUST RELAX AND CALM DOWN AND LET ME GATHER THE PROOF YOU NEED
[2/10/2018 12:09:08 PM] TWS: and your buddy may be a full stack developer making over 100 bucks an hour but i my self do have a offline job my self. and full stack developers the ones who are worth there salt do not make that much per hour they make far more lol. so i think your buddy is blowing smoke up your ass...
[2/10/2018 12:09:20 PM] TWS: also if you don't want it period even after
[2/10/2018 12:09:23 PM] TWS: i finished it
[2/10/2018 12:09:26 PM] TWS: and i show u proof
[2/10/2018 12:09:31 PM] TWS: i can find someone else who does
[2/10/2018 12:09:35 PM] TWS: and give u a partial refund
[2/10/2018 12:09:42 PM] TWS: i got no problem giving u a partial refund
[2/10/2018 12:09:49 PM] Tyler: Okay waiting on that screenshot, thanks.
[2/10/2018 12:09:50 PM] TWS: i just don't got it online to give to u right now
[2/10/2018 12:09:59 PM] TWS: so you see your over reacting over nothing
[2/10/2018 12:10:18 PM] Tyler: Waiting on that proof now, for over 24 hours. Thanks
[2/10/2018 12:10:45 PM] TWS: Once minimal progress on projects is sent to the customer no refunds shall be issued a client has 31 days to request a refund after said time has past only partial refunds will be processed. depending on the amount of work completed.
Due to time wasters NO I will not make a mock up a audition logo or any type of design up front with out payment or compensation.
[2/10/2018 12:10:55 PM] TWS: that is posted in my thread just fyi
[2/10/2018 12:10:58 PM] TWS: was there when you hired me
[2/10/2018 12:11:05 PM] TWS: and yes 24 hours as to not die
[2/10/2018 12:11:12 PM] TWS: literally from gas/fuel fumes
[2/10/2018 12:11:17 PM] Tyler: Once minimal progress on projects is sent to the customer no refunds shall
[2/10/2018 12:11:18 PM] Tyler: Once minimal progress on projects is sent to the customer no refunds shall
[2/10/2018 12:11:26 PM] Tyler: Did you send me any progress when I asked?
[2/10/2018 12:11:39 PM] TWS: actually i did
[2/10/2018 12:11:41 PM] TWS: that code
[2/10/2018 12:11:45 PM] TWS: is actually apart of the project
[2/10/2018 12:11:48 PM] TWS: regardless
[2/10/2018 12:11:52 PM] Tyler: That was after I asked
[2/10/2018 12:11:55 PM] TWS: what your so called full stack developer buddy
[2/10/2018 12:11:57 PM] TWS: says
[2/10/2018 12:12:10 PM] TWS: ok dude chill out for a min while i get this for u
[2/10/2018 12:12:11 PM] Tyler: projects is sent to the customer
[2/10/2018 12:12:22 PM] Tyler: According to your own T.O.S I get a full refund
[2/10/2018 12:12:30 PM] TWS: actually you don't
[2/10/2018 12:12:32 PM] Tyler: Because at the time of me asking you hadn't sent any progress
[2/10/2018 12:12:34 PM] TWS: your miss reading it
[2/10/2018 12:12:38 PM] TWS: and twisting every thing up
[2/10/2018 12:12:47 PM] TWS: as you have been since i messaged u this morning
[2/10/2018 12:13:06 PM] Tyler: Alright man, just send me a partial refund please I really don't have the time to deal with this.
[2/10/2018 12:13:12 PM] TWS: as do i
[2/10/2018 12:13:22 PM] TWS: give me awhile to gather it or get it online
[2/10/2018 12:13:27 PM] TWS: i actually get some funds released
[2/10/2018 12:13:31 PM] TWS: tommorow that are on hold
[2/10/2018 12:13:34 PM] TWS: in paypal
[2/10/2018 12:13:38 PM] TWS: if you can wait
[2/10/2018 12:13:45 PM] TWS: i will send u a partial
[2/10/2018 12:14:37 PM] TWS: but seriously bro i like you i do i've had no intension of scamming you i know scammers are riddled on hackforums but you don't know me so i will tell you flat out i've never scammed anyone on there i'm only trying to build my rep i literally posted my thread a week before you got ahold of me,
[2/10/2018 12:14:41 PM] TWS: you seem like a good dude
[2/10/2018 12:15:06 PM] TWS: and i harbor no mal intent towards you bro, i just wish we could of kept working together.
[2/10/2018 12:15:25 PM] TWS: but seriously your in more trouble then you bargained for if you really do plan to outsource to india.
[2/10/2018 12:17:22 PM] Tyler: I'm not outsourcing development I'm paying indians to pay per email so they'll be paid per email they sent using a template I give them
[2/10/2018 12:17:42 PM] TWS: i'm gonna try to send u something if paypal lets me just untill i get the rest
[2/10/2018 12:19:04 PM] TWS: fucking paypal security features and there quick security check bs
[2/10/2018 12:20:36 PM] TWS: alright bro my paypal is glitching with this quick security check bullshit
[2/10/2018 12:20:42 PM] TWS: i get some funds released tommorow
[2/10/2018 12:20:46 PM] TWS: that have been on hold
[2/10/2018 12:20:52 PM] TWS: ill give u a full partial refund
[2/10/2018 12:20:55 PM] TWS: tommorow
[2/10/2018 12:20:57 PM] TWS: :)
[2/10/2018 12:23:25 PM] TWS: hey bro hmu on discord if you need me
[2/10/2018 12:23:31 PM] TWS: i will be getting that out to you tommorow
[2/10/2018 12:28:20 PM] Tyler: Okay sounds good
[2/10/2018 8:00:58 PM] TWS: You got bitcoin
[2/10/2018 8:01:11 PM] TWS: I can give u a partial right now
[2/10/2018 8:21:17 PM] TWS: wow
[2/10/2018 8:21:25 PM] TWS: just saw the neg bro
[2/10/2018 8:21:32 PM] TWS: thanks ur the first neg i left on hf as well
[2/10/2018 8:21:37 PM] TWS: and yes we will get this worked out
[2/10/2018 9:32:11 PM] TWS: hmu with your bitcoin address for the partial and once u get the partial i hope you will remove that bs neg rep and i will do the same
[2/10/2018 9:32:12 PM] TWS: thanks
[7:24:18 AM] Tyler: How much is a partial refund?
[7:47:40 AM] Tyler: And no unless you show me you worked on it it's a full refund. Again you didn't send any proof? 2 days in a row? Either send proof or give me a full refund
[10:10:46 AM] TWS: listen fella i sent proof your fake coder friend tried to disprove just because you saw something in the code you don't like does not mean i did not work on it. it's a partial refund still i will send more proof i have some bitcoin i can send you as a gesture of good faith right now i'm at work if you want the bitcoin send me your address. if you want to remain acting like an impossable child so be it. and number 1 i've not been avoiding you number 2 neg repping me in an effort to make your self look like the victim is a childish act and number 3 you don't listen to save your own life.
[10:11:20 AM] Tyler: You said you'd send me a gif you just keep pushing it back? How much worth of bitcoin are you going to send me?
[10:12:01 AM] Tyler: Listen, I'm going to keep this real simple you said you'd send me a gif yesterday. Where is it? Plain and simple you don't follow throw with your words which makes you unrealible.
[10:12:03 AM] TWS: i'm waiting to get more
[10:12:20 AM] TWS: i've been busy with my real job man just relax
[10:12:25 AM] TWS: toss me your bitcoin address
[10:12:33 AM] Tyler: How much are you going to send me?
[10:12:45 AM] TWS: remember if i send u bitcoin it's worth more when you exchange it
[10:13:04 AM] TWS: theres no reason not to be peaceful man i don't plan on scamming you
[10:13:10 AM] TWS: i just don't got paypal funds
[10:13:12 AM] TWS: to refund you
[10:13:20 AM] Tyler: I am peaceful you've told me to shut the fuck up and a bunch of other stuff lol
[10:13:25 AM] TWS: ohhh
[10:13:30 AM] TWS: tyler tyler tyler
[10:13:36 AM] Tyler: HOW MUCH BITCOIN ARE YOU GOING TO SEND ME?
[10:13:40 AM] TWS: i was just waking up when i said that bro
[10:13:43 AM] Tyler: Answer the question I don't have time to talk
[10:13:46 AM] TWS: right now 15 and more when i have it
[10:13:50 AM] TWS: chill
[10:14:02 AM] TWS: like a said gesture of good faith
[10:14:12 AM] Tyler: Lol let me know when you have more for now I'm opening a scam report and just going to post the chat transcript and let the people decide.
[10:14:21 AM] TWS: dude you do that
[10:14:22 AM] Tyler: Funny you can buy ub3r but not refund me
[10:14:29 AM] TWS: ill be opening a community alert
[10:14:32 AM] TWS: there is no reason
[10:14:36 AM] TWS: for this to go to a scam report
[10:14:47 AM] Tyler: Why do you have time to by ub3r but not send me a gif?
[10:15:21 AM] TWS: because simple fact is you hired someone on hf and then started crying when you decided to go another route no one tells a developer there outsourcing to india thats a developers worst nightmare is indian outsourcing
[10:15:27 AM] TWS: i will send u a gif
[10:15:41 AM] Tyler: Send me $35 which I think is a OVERLY fair amount and we'll call the over and I'll remove the rep and not escalate and I'm sure if we both opened community alerts people would side with me given the "proof" you gave of some generic code
[10:15:43 AM] TWS: but if you open a scam report even after i send u a gesture of good faith payment
[10:15:48 AM] TWS: it will only make you look bad
[10:16:07 AM] TWS: says your fake coder buddy it's not generic code it was a sample of code to show u i've been working on it
[10:16:12 AM] TWS: and your acting childish
[10:16:13 AM] TWS: look
[10:16:19 AM] TWS: just send me your bitcoin addy
[10:16:24 AM] TWS: and ill send u some bitcoin
[10:16:28 AM] TWS: may be 15 may be more
[10:16:30 AM] TWS: idk yet
[10:16:36 AM] TWS: just stop acting childish
[10:16:39 AM] Tyler: Lmk when you have $35 worth.
[10:16:41 AM] TWS: and ill do good by you
[10:16:51 AM] TWS: how about i make it 25
[10:16:53 AM] TWS: dude
[10:16:57 AM] Tyler: If I don't have it by tonight I'm posting chat transcripts and your "proof"
[10:17:05 AM] Tyler: We'll let the community decide.
[10:17:07 AM] TWS: i was just trying to save some to put it into the paypal
[10:17:08 AM] Tyler: How about that?
[10:17:15 AM] TWS: DUDE
[10:17:15 AM] Tyler: How about we let the community decide?
[10:17:23 AM] TWS: your the one not being civil or peaceful this morning
[10:17:27 AM] TWS: i'm trying to pay you
[10:17:32 AM] TWS: and your acting like a mental midget
[10:17:37 AM] Tyler: Trying to give me half the money I sent you
[10:17:38 AM] TWS: give me your bitcoin address
[10:17:45 AM] TWS: dude i did some work
[10:17:47 AM] TWS: on it
[10:17:51 AM] TWS: i deserv to keep half
[10:17:55 AM] TWS: don't be a prick
[10:18:01 AM] TWS: give me your bitcoin address
[10:18:01 AM] Tyler: Send me the gif then if you did "work"
[10:18:26 AM] Tyler: Are you going to send me $35 worth?
[10:18:39 AM] TWS: i've got 25 worth
[10:18:49 AM] TWS: if you don't want that considering it's worth more paypal
[10:18:51 AM] TWS: when you exchange it
[10:18:53 AM] TWS: then so be it
[10:18:57 AM] TWS: your getting more
[10:18:59 AM] TWS: then what you paid me
[10:19:03 AM] TWS: if i pay you in bitcoin
[10:19:08 AM] TWS: i don't see what the big deal is
[10:19:10 AM] Tyler: Lol it doesn't 2x
[10:19:21 AM] Tyler: don't try to play me I used to deal with thousands in bitcoins weekly
[10:19:40 AM] TWS: dude
[10:19:44 AM] TWS: i'm not playing you
[10:19:50 AM] TWS: do you even relize what your saying
[10:19:56 AM] TWS: the ratio is 1.5 for bitcoin right now
[10:19:59 AM] TWS: your getting more
[10:20:11 AM] Tyler: Look man, $35 or I'll just let the community decide about you. I'm not negotiating down anymore
[10:20:18 AM] Tyler: I don't even want bitcoin
[10:20:24 AM] Tyler: It's creating more work for menow he is trying to strong arm me into paying him back in full he is being childish and immature.
https://blockchain.info/tx/c24bb06f78d59...04bceb5ac9
a gesture of good faith payment to him after he finally decided to give me his bitcoin address.
ill be sending some more to him after i get some in paypal even.
i tried to remain peaceful but he turned childish also he tried to pay me at one point in something called a magicalbutter for making hemp products after he saw a thread of mine on cbd.
he expects 35 out of 50 for a project i did infact finish. Nope he will get another 15 out of me but in general I will not pay back almost a full payment i sent him 15 in bitcoin witch he can exchange with the current 1.5 ratio and actually get more but thats it.
he is a time waster for the most part and childish he likes to twist peoples words up. i won't be dealing with this person anymore.
i offered partial refunds based on the terms of service in my thread it was there when he hired me and will remain there,
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5791382 my thread of witch he hired me out of.


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