[icarusrsa]

eDITED vERSION: PLEASE READ THE LOUNGE RULES PRIOR TO NEGATIVE COMMENTS .

Background: I studied Information Systems and a few other IT Certificates. I have Worked for a variety of international companies.In the early 2000s I took my money (Savings and Provident Fund) and invested it into Construction and an IT Consulting company as well.
I will try keep my country of origin out of this and companies I worked for to avoid profiling and names will be changed or something. So no real names or companies mentioned.

Around 2006/7 I met this guy (let's call him Bucktooth) that had a deal for refurbishment of a butchery and I invested 20k in that from my own pocket to do the work as a constructor. Midway through the project I find out that the owner of the joint is trying to scam the insurance company. So I bailed out and lost that money.
I am not a guy who runs to the cops/lawyers when shit like this happens, I usually handle it by the Street Code of Conduct or I keep walking (Johnnie Walker Mentality).

2015 (December time), Bucktooth crops up again and wants to hang out. That time I had just got a huge payout about 6 months back and went car shopping. I bought a few nice toys.
Anyways dude lays out some plans and they seem interesting and my money is running low at this point so I decide to listen.
Come January the business is back on, after holidays. We re-group and we talking and getting people together and daily meetings.
We strike a few deals with some government contracts on selling land and some are conversions from government to private land and some property to business development. All signed down but people are delaying and back-stabbing to put finalization and money in the bank. Things go mute and fall away. we move to the next thing...
SIDEBAR: Bucktooth's brother was jumped by his friends a while back over a cellphone and was in-and-out of hospitals. Late January I am in at his place and we busy on some proposals. I went home and forgot my jacket and cellphone. I nag him throughout the morning about my stuff, he finally pitches at my place around noon! Crying and hysterical. I find out that that his brother had just passed away and he got a call from his Mum as he was entering my gate.
I get my stuff and ask him to come inside, well kinda of dragging him. I offer him a drink to calm his nerves and I confiscate his keys! Eventually I let dude go.
Funeral comes and on his way back he damages his car.
Comes through driving the same car, still fucked up. Due to his financial status I offer him a spare car and take his car for repairs and I guarantee payment.
A couple of days later he gets a random call (I am with him) from an old friend of his girlfriend and it is a construction offer at some chemical making international company. We called to a 9am for a site briefing session the very next day. It is refurbishment of offices; car park markings and signs. total amount for both jobs is 1.8 Mil.
We submit tender after 3 days together with another job for toilet renovations and new ablussion facilities. There is also another job for an Effluent Plant that will cost us about 2.3 mil. Same company.
No response for a 3 months or more. All these jobs are offered by a consultant who is outsourced by the main company and they have various projects. I will call the consultant Dude.

So, he goes to inquire about the job and he tells me that the Project guy (Dude) wants a kickback and a meeting. I tell him, I am available for the meeting and the kickback part is his business as it is his company involved.
Dude breaks it down to us that he did not give us those jobs because he could not trust us! He had to vet us first and now he is comfortable. Tells us that the Effluent Plant job has changed and now silos have to be build and a recycling plant next to it and another Effluent plant for the sludge next to it. Total cost 65 mil including a new car park.
First job: Car Park (Total cost: 4.3 mil). Profit is 900k (split is 50:50 as per gentlemen's agreement - hand-shake). Dude summons one of his Whiskey guzzling meetings! We bring the documents in, we chop through the proposal and he asks us in details how we priced. I had priced the document to 4.6 mil. He cuts it down to 4.3 mil because he knows the budget. He tells us the loopholes, and the take home is now 1.4 mil. He wants 600k from it. Bucktooth agrees and I am not happy!
We get awarded the deal, work starts. I cannot go on the site because the owners know me and they think I work with dude and not with Bucktooth. I was sneaked into some private budget meetings under Dude's company.
Bucktooth is already making a few loans and bad decisions and

[Cyber]

Background: I studied Information Systems and a few other IT Certificates. Finished my Diploma in 1996. Worked for a variety of international companies including KLM/Air France. I the early 2000s I took my money (Savings and Provident Fund) and invested it into Construction. Got Knocked and went again to full employment for 2/3 years then a bit of Street Hustling and then again to the business world. Got a few arrests and went clean to normal life and construction again.

I will try keep my country of origin out of this and companies I worked for to avoid profiling and names will be changed or something. So no real names or companies mentioned.

Around 2006/7 I met this guy (let's call him Bucktooth) that had a deal for refurbishment of a butchery and I invested 20k in that from my own pocket to do the work as a constructor. Midway through the project I find out that the owner of the joint is trying to scam the insurance company. So I bailed out and lost that money.
I am not a guy who runs to the cops when shit like this happens, I usually handle it by the Street Code of Conduct or I keep walking (Johnnie Walker Mentality). I keep it moving.
I cut all ties with Bucktooth.

2015 (December time), Bucktooth crops up again and wants to hang out and buy and smoke a few cigars. That time I had just got a huge payout about 6 months back and went car shopping. I bought a few nice toys; Targa ; FF and one or two others I also started building my dream house (which lays unfinished at the moment...But I am jumping the gun here).
Anyways dude lays out some plans and they seem interesting and my money is running low at this point so I decide to listen. Out of excitement I end up paying the bill and the cigars and find him sniffing coke in the toilets. I never touch that shit and never will.
Come January the business is back on, after holidays. We re-group and we talking and getting people together and daily meetings.
We strike a few deals with some government contracts on selling land and some are conversions from government to private land and some property to business development. All signed down but people are delaying and back-stabbing to put finalization and money in the bank. Things go mute. Meanwhile in all these meetings I am paying lunch bills and drinks.
SIDEBAR: His bro, Bucktooth's brother was jumped by his friends a while back over a cellphone in some shaddy area and was in-and-out of hospitals. Late January I am in at his place and we busy on some admin shit and proposals. I left late, leaving my jacket and cellphone behind. I call him and nag him throughout the morning about my stuff, he finally piches at my place around noon! Crying and hysterical. I enquirer what is wring; only to find out that that his brother had just passed away and he got a call from his Mum and he ignored her until around noon. He was pestering him to come to hospital but did not tell him that his brother had passed. Finally she did as he was entering my gate! Drama, like those Nigerian exorcist churches. Dude falling all over the floor.
I get my stuff and ask him to come inside, well kinda of dragging him. I stay in a gated community. Neighbors are nosy as fuck and kinda like hate my guts. My cars are noisy and take up some of their parking. I offer him some Johnnie walker to calm his nerves and I confiscate his keys! in that state he would have never drove anywhere. He was an accident waiting to happen! Eventually I let dude go.
Could not make it to his funeral but gave gas money and support. I had other engagements and I do not like funerals at all. I do not attend. Long story for another day on that part. Been involved in a lot of violence as a youth.
Anyways... I get a call from him around 9pm and he tells me that he was involved in a car accident. He hit a goat in some farm area while driving back to his place. Like 400KMs away from where he stays. Okay, I offer to fetch him. That is sorted.
Comes through driving the same car, still fucked up (but driveable). Due to his financial status I offer him a spare car, A Volvo 2.4 Sedan and my friend owns a panelbeater so we take is A5 there for repairs and I guarantee payment. He was driving an Audi A5 Coupe.
A couple of days later he gets a random call (I am with him) from an old friend of his girlfriend and it is a construction offer at some chemical making international company. We need to be there at 9am for a site briefing.cool, we make it to the meeting interview. We make it and it is refurbishment of offices; car park markings and signs. total amount for both jobs is 1.8 Mil.
We go to work, setup; pricing and all. There is also another job for an Effluent Plant that will cost us about 2.3 mil. Same company.
We tender for the work and it is just silence. No response for a 3 months or more. Ooh there was another job for being offered for toilet installations for about 800k, All these jobs are offered by a consultant who is outsourced by the main company and they have various projects.
I so wish to tell you these places so you can picture all this. But, for legal reasons and my safety, I cannot do it. case still pending and my ipad and iPhone are with forensics ad=s I type this. Been like that since Oct, 2017. Hang-on I am close to the middle of the juicy bits!
So, he goes and enquires about the job and he tells me that the Project inside guy wants a kickback and a meeting. I tell him, I am available for the meeting and the kickback part is his business as it is his company involved. Ain't got shit to do with me!
When we at the meeting, Dude breaks it down to us that he did not give us those jobs because he could not trust us! He had to vet us first and now he is comfortable. Tells us that the Effluent Plant job has changed and now silos have to be build and a recycling plant next to it and another Effluent plant for the sludge bext to it. Total cost 65 mil! including a new car park in a virgin area and we have to ripout some trees as well.
First job: Car Park (Total cost: 4.3 mil). So we get busy.Take home for us is about 900k (split is 50:50 as per gentlemen's agreement - hand-shake)after paying everyone and tax. Dude (Project Lead) summons one of his Whiskey guzzling meetings (Dude drinks bells and has 4-6 glasses lined up without fail per order!! We bring the documents in, we chop through the proposal and he asks us in details how we priced. I had priced the document to 4.6 mil. He cuts it down because he knows the budget to 4.3 mil. He tells us the loopholes, and the take home is now 1.4 mil. He wants 600k from it. Bucktooth agrees and I am not happy!
We get awarded the deal, work starts. I cannot go on the site because the owners know me and they think I work with dude and not with Bucktooth. I was sneaked into some private budget meetings a few times under their company to evesdrop.
Bucktooth is already making a few loans and bad decisions and

I'm honestly not reading all of this because of the formatting I am sorry lol

[icarusrsa]

Part 2 (edited)

I noticed all these mistakes are chowing into the profits. e.g.: 1. he went to ask someone for a 200k loan for site establishment and promised them 400k payback 2. He is fucking this guys (loan shark's) wife on the side!!! These were serious concerns & problems.
Sorry I skipped a few vital parts:
a) It was agreed that the 65 mil will be split into our various companies and we will rope in our friends companies to bring as fronting companies for the benefit of "transparency".
b) Still on the 50/50 split: resources would be shared to save costs. People got their Egyptian-hand-shakes deals (bribes)
c) The company is under his girlfriend as Bucktooth was un-bankable due to loans and fraud he committed on some restaurant businesses he ran a few years ago. I was not involved as I had had shunned him.

His girlfriend comes back from a 6 month business trip and I need them to sign a partnership agreement of that 50/50 split, I send it through, they ignore me. Start to call cops on me and I get banned at his place for smoking weed and running a riot with the fire extinguisher in the pool .
I decide to branch out and leave their deal and the entire 65 mil project because I was starting to be sidelined and I could see changes and negative vibes as soon as the 4.3 payment certificate came through. So I wrote an e-mail to resign and requested a payout of 300k which they accepted, verbally. There was other damages (he had 2 accidents in 2 other cars of mine and damaged the car I loaned him) and loans which amounted to approximately 89k. He also loaned 45k from my sister which he had not paid. Up to this day, i am not on speaking terms with my sister because of this.
I had a few deals going for over 90 mil and I told him I wanted nothing to do with their company BUT we can still work together on my deals and other projects. I could not cut off Bucktooth completely. He had some serious connects with a lady that can organize 5 million revolving credit and knows how to hide money off-shore.
So I needed to tap into that as my tanks were drying up and needed money to take over the development deals. So we agree. We fly out and have some hotel party and one night he had a bill of 14k at the bar that I had to settle. Jets out abruptly and leaves me behind with a huge bill!
I come back in a foul mood, Bucktooth been avoiding my calls.
My deals are signed and I gave him all documents to give to the Funding Lady and I am panicking.
Dude (Project-Fuck-Face Manager) calls me, wants to know how much is my settlement. Start negotiating on Bucktooths' behalf. I ask him why the F he is negotiating that as that is between me and Bucktooth and company. I overhear Buck shouting how he is not scared of me in a whiskey voice in the background. I ignore it. I tell him that we agreed on 300k. We agreed on 75k payable in and another 25k towards my sister and final settlement of 225k end of October 2016. First payment comes after threats are made as 3 day was ignored.
Ooohh I forget...when I came back after ignoring my calls I demanded a return of my phone and car. He only took out his sim card on the phone and all other apps were not disabled.

By this time he had sabotaged all my deals and they were canceled for delays to do site establishments. I tried to salvage the deals by scrambling cash but was stone-walled on every turn including by my own family.
Come end October 2016, I want my money and I want it badly. He ignores me changes his number. i trace it back and he flat out refuses. I make threats, well to me they were warnings. I am under tremendous stress. I am drinking heavy-heavy and sleeping in hotels at this time. I do not wanna go home.
So I resort to SMS; WhatsApp; e-mail with 'warnings' to Bucktooth, he just ignores me.This is done during my alcohol binges I go on a business trip/holiday (well basically whoring) and I get back and I decide to google the company Bucktooth has contract with and I email all relevant Directors and I tell them how he got those deals... I HAVE A STORY TO TELL! I also carbon copy the sleaze bag (BuckTooth). I ask for leniency and to sign a document that will not incriminate me (whats that shit called) I forget. So I become a Whistleblower ( I am now a Rat). Pullout bank statements from the phone he returned and submit as evidence. This fool has been paying all his bribes through the company bank account!. I have video; Text; audio and email evidence including bank statements. I go through lawyers for 4-6 months including Deloitte Forensics. I sign affidavits left-right-and-center. Mind you... the company is not covering these costs, I am paying from my own pocket!

[SIM-1097664]

Holy fuck I thought the OP was a wall of text, then just to find out that was only part 1...

[icarusrsa]

Part 3 - Jeez! (Edited version)

They finally expel him on the site in December 2016. 2017 starts off well for me...
I sign partnership deals with some IT companies. Invites for partnership deals in Guangzhou, China. Things are looking very good but paper is still not flowing. The way my deals were structured, I was definately going to be a billionaire in 3/4 years. If you ever need business proposals and contract agreements, I am your guy (free of charge).
But my cashflow is out. I am running on empty! Bank calls are starting to come heavy on a regular. I start cutting all insurance premiums on the cars; house; life policies and a bank repo on the sportscar.
I also decided to cut off my entourage. So I was running in a team of 2. Just me and another fucking Loser!! (story for another topic on it's own). Some back stabbing Arsehole.

I get paid on some dividends/leaving annuity shit and cashout some investments as I was dry.I
Anyways... So I decide 2017 onwards, that is my style and I am winning.
bad move: I decide that all these motherfuckers that owe need to pay up!! So I hire 'debt collectors' Goons. 6 of them. to collect all my money from all the fucks that have knocked me. 2 cars are missing; a 2500L fuel trailor. This is from other sour deals I had made. Doors need to be kicked. I start to e-mail; texting; hollering; swearing. I jet the Goons in.. there's Mr. Know-it-All in a corner; puffing on a Cuban and dozing the throat down on some Johnnie Walker Blue. That is me acting like this big ass mafia guy.
Goons come, I give them 2 cars, they flew in. They wanted, they wanted 3 X 5series BMWs hired, my card would no go through at AVIS This is beginning of October 2017. So they ask for 300k up front. I give them 150k upfront and book them hotels.
First target: Bucktooth. He is a stone-throw away from the hotel!
So, I had a breakdown in communication with my partner (basically he was going behind my back introducing other people to my business partners). Business sabotage. And stole stuff in my house and duplicate some credit cards. And he was also getting a visit tonight!
So, I tore up his contract and had to attend business conference in his place.
We never got inside Bucktooth;s place of residence. A huge police entourage came and I had to grease a few hands and leave the next day for the conference. All good. Gave the Goons all contact details to people that owed me cash or cars.
As soon as I touch down on the tar mac, I get a call from the police, I have a case and I am needed pronto! But they play it cool. So I ask about opened the case and what is the charge? 2 Charges: Extortion and Intimidation opened by Bucktooth in October 2016!! Man, my case is about 500 pages. All my evidence that I have been incriminating my own damn self. Well I saw the file later during interview before they locked my ass up and took all my communication devices! All that is with forensics since October 2017 to date....
A week goes by I am still at the conference, talking to lawyers from time-to-time. Ooohh during that time, I was waiting to pay the balance of 150k to the goons but had closed all bank accounts due to fraudulent activities on our cards. So my woman calls me and tells me she has paid the cash BUT I must drop everything and come home because the 2 cars I gave to the goons were 600KMs away!! and the goons say I owe them 300k! What??!!! what??? We just paid them!! Yah, well they say you still owe them otherwise you not getting those vehicles back.
Shit. Head is spinning. I cannot see through the Fidel Castro Clouds and Scottish Whisky!! Oooh man... I call... Make threats to the Goons!. cars traced via anti-vehicle. But one car has no GPS system. I learned a lesson from the Sportscar repo. Another Huge Mistake! One of the vehicles (a truck) 800 mileage on the clock. fairly new but a year old.

So I fly back home. Go on a drinking binge. I make a few calls, trace one car, I get it back. Pay one of the goons 15k for that. They are starting to turn on each other, so I think!! Hmm.. Huge mistake. I hire a top guy, streetwise feared guy, he makes calls and call border gate control contacts, we trace the truck has crossed the border. We make more calls and hack into cellphone carriers, we get all the Goons numbers, we call their baby mothers; fathers you name it. We finally get the truck back after 4 weeks with Dakar rally mileage on the odometer!!
I hand myself over at the police station, I get arrested without bail! This is the Bucktooth charge.
two weeks spent trying various angles to get released... I finally get bail for 20k.

[Hᴇxᴀɢᴏɴ]

Sounds like ya need to lawyer up bruh , also , id be cautious , once you fuck with someones money they might retaliate

[V For Vendetta.]

Okay just read both of these.
All I have to say is:
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. A fool and his money are soon parted. Idk why you'd get in bed with the same guy that fucked you over the first time and expect everything to go smoothly the second time.

[icarusrsa]

Conclusion... Thank GOD!!!

All my deals fell apart because of my stress and jail time. During that time, i had a car accident and wrote off the Targa and my woman lost a the child. Two months pregnant. I case was remanded (hope that is the correct legal term for 13 December 2017). it was then struck off the roll. You might think that is a win!! Nope! That cop is still at it and I recently had to go sign a warning for breaking my bail conditions!! How? I wrote another e-mail...fool!!! Keep up!
He tells me that my case can be struck off the roll but it does not mean it is over. He just need to gather more evidence! Shit FAM, what the fuck does that mean. He says I need to go to court, only the judge can say guilty or not guilty!! Shit!! To him, case is on-going. Even though I got my bail (bond) money back. Man, I do not know. When I talk about this shit, I just choke up and I go for a smoke again!
Little part I skipped; so BUCKTOOTH ( I heard this over the phone) told a common friend that he paid my goons 100k to leave him alone. And was boosting over the phone how I am fucked and got back-stabbed. Hmmm... this shit!! This shit makes a person's heart go cold! There are some parts I skip FAM. This shit can make you go very dark. Anyways let me leave this story right here. And Bucktooth says the reason why he opened the case, was/is that I must loo very very bad in this case so he can win the lawsuit he filed against that company I snitched him on and he is suing them for unfair dismissal and he wants 150 million!! Guess who he wants to cut that money with?

Let me leave it here FAM because this case is still pending. Still I grind. I am here now!! right. Getting back on my feet. Man... I have no tiers for this fool. Lessons not lesson have been learned from my side. Lots of them. I ride solo now, fuck friends. And I have been called by government to testify and I had to beg for leniency again. cop-a-plea. Already testified. Just waiting for outcome or to give them data evidence. Some competition-collusion -fraud stuff department ( I know the name but trying to keep out certain names.).
I have also learned that in revenge dig 2 holes and learn to let go and keep-it-moving. Restrain thy tongue and stop talking a lot. Drink privately alone and stop texting and self-snitching! God//Allah/whomever you call him, gave me a great talent and I learn things very quickly and that has made me bless a lot of people and have access to money so I must stop certain things. I made a lot of foolish mistakes and I love Texting drunk and making threats. Self-restraint and stopping alcohol is a solution. I lost a lot of deals by making stupid drunk decisions and I am paying dearly for that. But I still get deals and I need to dust myself off and face this. I try beat it or be very smart and avoid this jail stuff and beat this case.
I will keep editing where necessary. Trust me, I have all documents on everything I talk about here. For anonymity FAM, respect that part and do not be asking personal stuff. I will answer where I can. Remember this is still pending.
Doctors tell me any day I will have stroke but I refuse to take chronic meds for that. Advise is welcome. I am sharing to vent out this shit and perhaps you might learn something out of this and also to learn to respect money or not flash it too much. I don't know. Up to you. You can judge me all you want. It is only fair. I ain't looking for no sympathy. There is way way more going on. This is just one of them stories. They do tie-up if you connect the dots... I will bring another one when I feel like it again.

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Sounds like ya need to lawyer up bruh , also , id be cautious , once you fuck with someones money they might retaliate

At the moment I am up to my neck on lawyer fees. Read the conclusion. There is some stuff I cannot disclose at the moment. Remember Vex, this was also my money! I have lost way more than him. But dying is not something I worry about and since he put me in-jail, I doubt he would try to get me popped. But I am on-guard and I do not go out anymore and I do not call anybody and nobody comes to my house except cleaners and Po-Po!

[Kraith]

This shits wild. Keep us posted.

[icarusrsa]

Holy fuck I thought the OP was a wall of text, then just to find out that was only part 1...

I apologize in advance if I made a mistake... SBF. It is a long ass messed up story. And some parts I left out. I thought I should write it down as I choke up when I tell a person face2face.
almost 25 000 characters (letters)! 😯 😠

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Okay just read both of these.
All I have to say is:
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. A fool and his money are soon parted. Idk why you'd get in bed with the same guy that fucked you over the first time and expect everything to go smoothly the second time.

Noted V and thanks for your words of wisdom. I have a lot of those mistakes and I am full of regrets.

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This shits wild. Keep us posted.

I will Kraith. I will... That is if I dont go to jail. But I see some loopholes. Thanks for reading. Let me go smoke...

[TimeFromTarget]

Good luck with this mate ;o

[icarusrsa]

Good luck with this mate ;o

Thanks for the well wishes and take care...

[test]

Have you considered writing a book instead?

[CyberStrike]

hmm some people are just crap, this business partner was no good .. that second time he hit you up for money, he knew.. someone told him what's up. He kinda out maneuvered you a bit at each turn and has quite a bit of experience in what he was doing all along.

[icarusrsa]

Have you considered writing a book instead?

nah. Not in my line of sight.No time for such. I dont think this deserves such.

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hmm some people are just crap, this business partner was no good .. that second time he hit you up for money, he knew.. someone told him what's up. He kinda out maneuvered you a bit at each turn and has quite a bit of experience in what he was doing all along.

Very True Sirru5h. But when I picked up, it was lights out for me. Because on all Text Messages, he would never ever respond. On calls he evaded and once he answered and refused to pay and told me I was never part of their company. The mere fact there is very little signed down. motives from day one! Case was opened a few days after 75 and 25k payments.