[SIM-925118]

Some departments are trained to ask ID first before saying anything else.

Sorry, but you were the asshole.

[ℛainbowℋℯȵȶᴀį]

2 nights ago I was pulled over around 11pm after seeing a movie with my girlfriend. The cop walked up too me and asked for my ID, which then I proceed to ask why I got pulled over. He then proceeds to say the most stupid comment, "I don't need to tell you, GIVE ME YOUR ID SIR." I then proceed to tell him that he can't just pull me over if he has no probable cause. The officer then proceeds to ask my gf for her ID and at that point I told her not to hand her ID over even though she was about too.

This cop then tells me "don't be a smart ass sir, listen to your girlfriend and let me see your id." I refused for a good 35 minutes and I guess he had a call up for another case, and before he left he said, "next time I won't be so nice sir." I asked him for name and he walked away and said its on my badge.... I was very pissed!

I filled a complaint form and called my attorney the next day because I found him threatening.

I thought LAPD and cops were suppose to protect and serve. 😟  😟

You being a dick to the cop is just going to make it worse. Just give them your ID and move along, it will make your life and the cops life a whole lot easier.

[Crypt]

I went on Google and searched "do you have to identify yourself to a police officer in California"?

This was the result:

Police cannot force you to show ID without just cause, so they cannot arrest you for simply refusing to identify yourself. California does not have what is called a “Stop and Identify” or “Papers Please” statute that requires you to produce identification to the police when asked. Just because police ask to see your ID doesn’t mean you have to show it.

Now although you did not have to show your ID. I agree with "THE NORTH FACE" when they said " If you had just handed over your license you would have been on your way within 10 minutes."

“Stop and Identify” or “Papers Please” Is assuming you're just walking down the street and a cop randomly asks you for ID, however, if you actually broke a law (including traffic laws) the police have every right to ask you for ID and if you refuse you can be taken to jail.

The best thing to do is contact a lawyer in whatever state you're in and ask them, they know the law better than Google.

[Mr.Peanut II]

You should've recorded it.  Not calling you a liar but most people (the courts) won't believe this happened without some evidence.  They are supposed to tell you why they stopped you and it doesn't make sense he just left the scene when you wouldn't give your info.

If anything he has a body cam on him...hopefully...

[Crypt]

If anything he has a body cam on him...hopefully...

They are always supposed to.

[Mr.Peanut II]

I went on Google and searched "do you have to identify yourself to a police officer in California"?

This was the result:

Police cannot force you to show ID without just cause, so they cannot arrest you for simply refusing to identify yourself. California does not have what is called a “Stop and Identify” or “Papers Please” statute that requires you to produce identification to the police when asked. Just because police ask to see your ID doesn’t mean you have to show it.

Now although you did not have to show your ID. I agree with "THE NORTH FACE" when they said " If you had just handed over your license you would have been on your way within 10 minutes."

I'm trying to make a statement that cops can't just bully a civilian even thought it would've took 10 minutes for him to check my ID.

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They are always supposed to.

Yea body cam is required but in some cases the "audio" is turned off, or there are "technical" issues

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Some departments are trained to ask ID first before saying anything else.

Sorry, but you were the asshole.

He asked for my ID, I ask why...

[SIM-925118]

He asked for my ID, I ask why...

Yea, and they don't have to inform you of that reason until they receive your ID. If you don't have warrants, and a valid license why would you refuse to show identification? Honesty goes a long way with cops, bullshit won't always slide.

This is pure logic, if you had a cop who was patient, but also firm. You probably would be in jail right now if you continued to refuse identification.

[NCAA]

cause your brown driving in a white neighborhood

[shelled]

Can you make a tutorial on how to catch a girlfriend?

[team3d]

“Stop and Identify” or “Papers Please” Is assuming you're just walking down the street and a cop randomly asks you for ID, however, if you actually broke a law (including traffic laws) the police have every right to ask you for ID and if you refuse you can be taken to jail.

The best thing to do is contact a lawyer in whatever state you're in and ask them, they know the law better than Google.

For Mr.Peanut II situation, it is presumed that he did not break any laws as the officer is supposed to notify you as to why he has pulled you over. Maybe if the police officer had told him why he had been stopped, he would have been more willing to surrender his ID to the police officer? Regardless, if I was randomly stopped by a police officer in my region, I'd give the police officer my ID and while I am handing it over I would politely ask him/her the reason why I was pulled over.

I'm trying to make a statement that cops can't just bully a civilian even thought it would've took  10 minutes for him to check my ID.

I honestly think it is not worth it though, considering the power that a police officer has. If they want they can give you a really hard time.

[NCAA]

He asked for my ID, I ask why...

cause thats his JOB you clown

you dont know what he was after so dont be jackass. could of been a car in the area that robbed a store and your car matched the description. people like you are the exact reason there is tension between cops and regular folks in america.

[Crypt]

For Mr.Peanut II situation, it is presumed that he did not break any laws as the officer is supposed to notify you as to why he has pulled you over. Maybe if the police officer had told him why he had been stopped, he would have been more willing to surrender his ID to the police officer? Regardless, if I was randomly stopped by a police officer in my region, I'd give the police officer my ID and while I am handing it over I would politely ask him/her the reason why I was pulled over.

This is what I would do too. I wasn't there so I don't know the tone of voice and the posture the OP had, or perhaps this cop just had a chip on his shoulder.

[team3d]

I'm trying to make a statement that cops can't just bully a civilian even thought it would've took  10 minutes for him to check my ID.

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Yea body cam is required but in some cases the "audio" is turned off, or there are "technical" issues

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He asked for my ID, I ask why...

This is what I would do too.  I wasn't there so I don't know the tone of voice and the posture the OP had, or perhaps this cop just had a chip on his shoulder.

Yes, you are right. First impression is very important. Maybe the cop and OP had a bad first impression? We don't know.

[Bill Gates]

Just be cool give him what he wants and let him be on his way, he doesn't want to be stuck by the side of the road having to argue with some pretentious kid that thinks he knows the law and wants to make a stand...................I'd be more concerned if the police weren't doing their job and stopping peoples on the road. You were the problem here by making his job harder than it has to be, no wonder he was a dick to you. All he was asking for is ID, not like you were doing handbrake turns in the Walmart carpark while screaming profanities out the window, I don't see why you had to make a molehill into a mountain.

Let him do his job, comply, then complain if you have video later.

[Mr.Peanut II]

Yes, you are right. First impression is very important. Maybe the cop and OP had a bad first impression? We don't know.

dialogue literally went:
me : Hi officer
officer : licenses and registration
me : can i ask why you are pulling me over
officer: I don't need to tell you, ID please

And yes cops HAVE to have a reasonable cause to ID you unless its a DUI checkpoint...

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Just be cool give him what he wants and let him be on his way, he doesn't want to be stuck by the side of the road having to argue with some pretentious kid that thinks he knows the law and wants to make a stand...................I'd be more concerned if the police weren't doing their job and stopping peoples on the road. You were the problem here by making his job harder than it has to be, no wonder he was a dick to you. All he was asking for is ID, not like you were doing handbrake turns in the Walmart carpark while screaming profanities out the window, I don't see why you had to make a molehill into a mountain.

Let him do his job, comply, then complain if you have video later.

kind of ignorant of you to say some "some kid who thinks he knows the law," I thought it was just common knowledge but oh well ✌