Apr 16, 2026 07:23 AM
(This post was last modified: Apr 16, 2026 07:26 AM by TheCowardlyDog.)
Hi ☺️
I’d like to introduce myself, I’m TheCowardlyDog!
Since I was a child it’s been a dream of mine to achieve FUD and beat any anti-virus, I discovered how to a few months ago and honestly the method will blow you away at how simple it is!
It starts with Windows Security Center, it has a flaw where it controls which anti-virus on the system protects by default, it tells the system which anti-virus to use for runtime and scan time, only one can be active at any given time.
Here’s the funny part… mind-blower moment… get prepared to slap yourself!
It doesn’t take a genius to recognise that the latest installed antivirus sets itself as the default antivirus for runtime and scantime.
So what does this mean?
Say your virus is a Yeti or the Abominable Snowman, with 69/70 detections…
All you have to do is install the anti-virus which isn’t detecting it beforehand!
Create a simple installer in AutoHotkey which downloads and installs the antivirus silently using the -silent switch - then downloads your .exe
It’s that simple. You’re probably wondering why nobody has thought of this before, well, ask them!
Slap yourself. Do it! I’ll buy you a horse if you do, even a black one.
Admin… Pfft, a simple “switch off the screen and place the cursor over the accept button” will work.
There might be an anti-virus which doesn’t require admin to install - check! (use OpenAI)
Apr 17, 2026 06:02 AM
(This post was last modified: Apr 17, 2026 06:07 AM by DramaKing.)
Fake antivirus is a well-known technique, and one that I believe only works for runtime. You absolutely still need to bypass static detection. Installing a second antivirus on a system doesn't wall off the first.
Also, AutoHotKey can't interact with the secure desktop. Microsoft isn't stupid. It's also not FUD.
(Apr 17, 2026 06:02 AM)DramaKing Wrote: Fake antivirus is a well-known technique, and one that I believe only works for runtime. You absolutely still need to bypass static detection. Installing a second antivirus on a system doesn't wall off the first.
Also, AutoHotKey can't interact with the secure desktop. Microsoft isn't stupid. It's also not FUD.
It does prevent the current antivirus from running and I’m suggesting to use the /silent installation flag, then all you need is a simple FUD (scantime + runtime) to install the antivirus and then run your .exe
you are so clueless lmfao.
(Apr 20, 2026 06:59 PM)evadethegovernment Wrote: you are so clueless lmfao.
How?
(Apr 19, 2026 02:41 PM)TheCowardlyDog Wrote: It does prevent the current antivirus from running and I’m suggesting to use the /silent installation flag, then all you need is a simple FUD (scantime + runtime) to install the antivirus and then run your .exe
Are you trolling, if you need fud to install the AV you could just have a fud payload ? tf is this
(Apr 21, 2026 06:19 PM)ServersFxcked Wrote: Are you trolling, if you need fud to install the AV you could just have a fud payload ? tf is this
Why does nobody get this?
An installer that installs an antivirus is FUD, then you just download and install your .exe afterwards.
(Apr 23, 2026 01:23 AM)TheCowardlyDog Wrote: Why does nobody get this?
An installer that installs an antivirus is FUD, then you just download and install your .exe afterwards.
You don't think your wrong when multiple people say otherwise ?
Not saying you are but maybe a better explanation or POC video
May 1, 2026 01:36 PM
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2026 01:37 PM by TheCowardlyDog.)
(Apr 23, 2026 05:32 AM)ServersFxcked Wrote: You don't think your wrong when multiple people say otherwise ?
Not saying you are but maybe a better explanation or POC video
I released the script, it’s 100% FUD and works perfectly.
Check out my forum threads.
Because you lot bugged me.
Seems like it could work if there was a vuln in the av or a really weak av... but there is prob better methods if you already have admin... kinda like BYOVD
(Apr 16, 2026 07:23 AM)TheCowardlyDog Wrote: Hi ☺️
I’d like to introduce myself, I’m TheCowardlyDog!
Since I was a child it’s been a dream of mine to achieve FUD and beat any anti-virus, I discovered how to a few months ago and honestly the method will blow you away at how simple it is!
It starts with Windows Security Center, it has a flaw where it controls which anti-virus on the system protects by default, it tells the system which anti-virus to use for runtime and scan time, only one can be active at any given time.
Here’s the funny part… mind-blower moment… get prepared to slap yourself!
It doesn’t take a genius to recognise that the latest installed antivirus sets itself as the default antivirus for runtime and scantime.
So what does this mean?
Say your virus is a Yeti or the Abominable Snowman, with 69/70 detections…
All you have to do is install the anti-virus which isn’t detecting it beforehand!
Create a simple installer in AutoHotkey which downloads and installs the antivirus silently using the -silent switch - then downloads your .exe
It’s that simple. You’re probably wondering why nobody has thought of this before, well, ask them!
Slap yourself. Do it! I’ll buy you a horse if you do, even a black one.
Admin… Pfft, a simple “switch off the screen and place the cursor over the accept button” will work.
There might be an anti-virus which doesn’t require admin to install - check! (use OpenAI)
i am interested in getting or buying this crypter from you, get back to me here let's talk more.
thank you,
i need a good FUD crypter from you to crypt my Raton RAT.
Jun 17, 2026 05:39 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 17, 2026 05:41 AM by DramaKing.)
(May 1, 2026 01:36 PM)TheCowardlyDog Wrote: I released the script, it’s 100% FUD and works perfectly.
Check out my forum threads.
Because you lot bugged me.
Any script that's used for malware can be designated as malicious by AV as being a loader, even if it installs AV WITH admin privileges.
(May 22, 2026 07:47 PM)Arabkobo Wrote: i am interested in getting or buying this crypter from you, get back to me here let's talk more.
thank you,
Literally not a crypter or even for sale. If you can't read, use machine translation.
I get the concept, install a fake AV so you can install X amount of malware without having to make those FUD. But wont the first AV eventually get detected and then updates to WD will wipe it, which in turn will allow it to detect your X amount of malware hiding behind it? No FUD lasts "forever" its just not possible...if it was all of our windows machines would be fucked by now and they would be out of business lol.
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