[SIM-1097664]

Notes:
Times of screenshots may not be accurate to current time. This thread was created over multiple days this last week since I had to wait for buyer responses along with dealing with real life things like work (What people do for money besides scamming people on HF  🤫 )

Also, screenshots might be fucked up. I discovered when I tried to post that there's a limit to embedded images which is 15, so I just had to link to a bunch of them. Sorry! If something is fucked up, let me know.

Also also, this community alert originally started as an alert on ŜHΔÐΣ, then discovered √ΛレΛƦ was in on it as well, so some wording might be a little weird in some places since I didn't feel like editing some things.

EDIT #1 11/2/18 2148:
Looks like ŜHΔÐΣ is trying to exit scam. A couple hours after this thread is posted, this happens - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5902797
After scamming for $1k, he vac bans himself - https://i.imgur.com/KNlba20.png
EDIT #2 11/4/18 0551:
ŜHΔÐΣ has now been banned for the above CE scam. Get fucked, hope the other guy gets his money back.
EDIT #3 11/7/18 1738:
So I've been on Valar's ignore list for a day or two now - https://i.imgur.com/96AMM18.png
He's also read this thread multiple times without responding
After multiple people posting on his sales thread here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5902365 - about him and his trash methods, he finally closed it. Will wait for a new one to pop up ;)
EDIT #4 11/9/18 0113:
Looks like he opened another sales thread - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5905179 - for anyone who wants to take a peek :)
Supposedly a brand new method, which I'm assuming is equally as trash, but still has the exact same thread layout, wording, and "Earnings proof" as his previous ones that this thread is based off. Interesting ;)
EDIT #5 11/14/18 2304:
So today, another user posted this thread - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5907555 - stating Valar was trying to buy his account.
The picture Valar sent this user as "Proof of earnings" was the exact same one he sent to me 5 months ago (His message to me is posted below)
EDIT #6 12/11/18
Looks like Valar is spending less and less time on the forum. He now goes days without coming online
https://i.imgur.com/VAmKJSX.png
While this is good, it also means he's probably either bought or is working on buying another account and will continue to post his trash
EDIT #7 12/27/18
Looks like they might be back under the account Nike+ - https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=1611873
Small write up here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id58058557


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User(s) in question:
ŜHΔÐΣ (Now closed) | UID=138516 | https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...uid=138516
√ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ | UID=481087 | https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...uid=481087

Other accounts of ŜHΔÐΣ / √ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ as well, all banned (There is probably more)
MaxoKream | UID=3893262 | https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=3893262
Rece | UID=3904225 | https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=3904225
Donny Phantom | UID=3910571 | https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=3910571

Noticed ŜHΔÐΣ's sales thread was extremely similar to the one posted by MaxoKream, so I started looking into it from there
ŜHΔÐΣ's original sales thread - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5899446
ŜHΔÐΣ's new sales thread - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5899719
√ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™'s sales thread 1 - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5857382
√ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™'s sales thread 2 - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5902365
√ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™'s sales thread 3- https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5905179
MaxoKream's sales thread - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5843510
We'll get to why they have made multiple sales threads later.

Accusations:
ŜHΔÐΣ / √ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ is a multi of the 3 banned users above
ŜHΔÐΣ / √ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ sell the same eBook
This eBook was previously sold by the banned member MaxoKream
They vouch for each others threads and make new threads once they get negative reviews

Quick backstory:
Bought an eBook (Same one √ΛレΛƦ / ŜHΔÐΣ are currently selling) from MaxoKream back in June. Most of the methods were pure trash, the main one would have been decent except for the fact that I'm now getting sued by a large software company for doing it and am currently out about $2k between lawyer and settlement fees.

MaxoKream had two other accounts at the time, plus offered to buy mine, so I knew he would eventually come back and I've tried to keep an eye out for him.

Enough bullshit, let's roll.

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Same Discord is used by √ΛレΛƦ and Maxo

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Message when I was talking to Maxo that links to Maxo's sales thread (The thread at the top of this post):
https://i.imgur.com/5hMfPbp.png
Maxo's eBook with his Discord tag, you can change your username but the numbers are always the same:
https://i.imgur.com/TwulrTP.png
Maxo's Skype (Posted on his sales thread) sending me his Discord tag
https://i.imgur.com/NsOSPgr.png
Maxo's Skype (Posted on his sales thread) on June 7 saying he will add me on Discord
https://i.imgur.com/ueLjSXx.png
Maxo's first message to me on Discord is June 7
https://i.imgur.com/0xVMwac.png

Valar posted this response to a user talking about the methods not working and his Ebay getting banned:
https://i.imgur.com/OqOV4n8.png
The Printscreen goes to this screenshot:
https://i.imgur.com/BSrZzna.png
Valar buyer 3 (See more from him later) sent me this screenshot that he had saved from talking to him when he had issues with the eBook
https://i.imgur.com/eKRaMtn.png
https://i.imgur.com/KFKBimr.png
Valar's Skype picture is the same as the Discord picutre
https://i.imgur.com/240pCha.png
https://i.imgur.com/vxVFPhp.png

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Let's move on and check out ŜHΔÐΣ's profile.

I believe this profile was either hacked or sold. MaxoKream offered to buy my account so I'm sure he asked others as well.
https://i.imgur.com/O7mjZIb.png

Since ŜHΔÐΣ's account is now closed closed, there's really no point in talking about him, so I've put everything about his account in the spoiler below.
Spoiler (Click to View)
ŜHΔÐΣ's profile history

Created on: 12-31-2009
Never bought any awards or an upgrade
Current post history goes back to 2016, posting in various threads including Secondary Sellers, the Lounge, RATS, Buyers Bay, Referrals, Vices, Currency Exchange, Console Gaming, Ewhoring.

Now, all of the other multi accounts were banned June 16, 17, and 18 of 2018

Looking at the trust scan of ŜHΔÐΣ, the account had an email change 7/9/18
https://i.imgur.com/lIpJtq8.png

Now the account starts to change after that email change in July.

After being on the forum for almost 9 years, the account finally makes a donation to HF in the form of a r00t upgrade on 8/15/18

Before the email change, the user had around 2k posts in various places of the forum listed above. What is the first post after the email change?
https://i.imgur.com/a2yFm8k.png
Dropping a vouch on a $140.00 eBook thread by √ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™

Since that email change, almost all of ŜHΔÐΣ's posts have been in the premium seller section, either on his own eBook threads or on other eBook threads. Rarely, if at all, has the account posted in the forums that it did before the email change. There's been a lot of PayPay/BTC/Canadian e-transfer exchanges posted (I'm assuming to cashout his eBook earnings).

As mentioned earlier, Maxo had a screenshot of a CAD bank in his thread, so it's safe to assume he's Canadian.
Here's ŜHΔÐΣ looking for a Canadian E-Transfer in the currency exchange section - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5879414 - so safe to assume he's Canadian as well.
https://i.imgur.com/v2uSUEE.png

√ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ also has a "proof" picture on his sales thread (https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5857382) of a PayPal in both USD and CAD
https://i.imgur.com/99HD0ri.png
His vouch on ŜHΔÐΣ's sales thread shows a CAD bank account
https://i.imgur.com/EzqsBvV.png

Here is an old post in 2017 from ŜHΔÐΣ's account in the referral section.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5712304
https://i.imgur.com/ZTRpwEK.png
The Goo.gl link - https://goo.gl/ZZEotj - Is a referral link that redirects to Chime Bank and gives you a bonus for signing up.
Chime is an online bank that only US residents can get an account. His post even says "totally forgot to mention for us"

So a year ago, the account is posting about promos going on that you need to be a USA resident for. Now, the account is posting proof from a Canadian checking account and PayPal cashing out in CAD. Country switch is very odd.


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Let's take a look at √ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™'s profile.

I believe this account was also stolen or sold.

So looking at his trust scan we can see a couple of things
https://i.imgur.com/ZH2aIkq.png
First off, account has IP's all over the damn place, so that's shady to begin with.
Secondly, we can see an email change and a password change on 9/13/17

Current post history goes back to 6/12/17, with a majority of posts being related to crypto currency, either speculation or exchanges, with some oddball posts here and there.

After the email and password change, just like ŜHΔÐΣ, the profile starts to change.

https://i.imgur.com/OjJpu4W.png

So the first two posts take place on the 14th, a day after. One is asking for a vouch of an eBook and another is asking for an exchange, PP to BTC (This could have been an early attempt at a scam.

Now 8 months later posts start popping up again. The first on 5/5/18 is asking for some type of free eBook.
The second post is some random congratulations post on a guys thread.
Now on 6/4/18 he posts a sales thread here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5844536 - which he closed after being called out for bullshit (We'll talk more on this later)

Since then, the posts have mainly been in premium sellers on his eBook and in CE, looking for PP to BTC (Assuming cashing out eBook earnings)

This deal dispute was posted back in 2013 - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=3506440
Then OVER 5 YEARS LATER, he posts his first response to it
https://i.imgur.com/oYhE6kq.png
Why go back to a five year old account and post on a DD asking to get it closed? "I don't really remember what happened back then" - Yea probably because it wasn't your account lmao.

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Now on to proof that ŜHΔÐΣ and √ΛレΛƦ are selling the same eBook Maxokream was selling before he was banned

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I messaged a couple buyers on ŜHΔÐΣ's various sales threads.
I messaged a couple buyers on √ΛレΛƦ's various sales threads.

I told them exactly what I was doing, trying to find out if he was a multi who scammed people in the past. I then listed every method that MaxoKream sold me months ago, asking them to confirm if it was the same info they had just purchased from ŜHΔÐΣ and √ΛレΛƦ.

Blocked out the following:
My name (Obviously it's me, just didn't want it on Imgur)
The part where I explain what the eBook contains (Did this so I'm not a "leaker")
The URL of the screenshots of the eBook (Did this so I'm not a "leaker")
Names of some users I PM'd - I did this at their request

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Here's the PM I sent to buyers of ŜHΔÐΣ's eBook:
https://i.imgur.com/fDE9081.png

ŜHΔÐΣ buyer 1:
Initial response:
https://i.imgur.com/gmdDkjf.png
The user then posted this:
https://i.imgur.com/EJlNXeJ.png

ŜHΔÐΣ buyer 2:
Initial response:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Sent screenshots I had of Maxo's eBook, asking to confirm if they were the same.
Spoiler (Click to View)
Response to screenshots:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Him telling me he doesn't want his name public
Spoiler (Click to View)

ŜHΔÐΣ buyer 3:
Initial response:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Sent screenshots I had of Maxo's eBook, asking to confirm if they were the same.
Spoiler (Click to View)
Response to screenshots:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Wants name blurred:
Spoiler (Click to View)

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Here's the PM I sent to buyers of √ΛレΛƦ's eBook:
https://i.imgur.com/t6Y4AnM.png

√ΛレΛƦ buyer 1:
Initial response:
https://i.imgur.com/XTwXgLr.png
Sent screenshots I had of Maxo's eBook, asking to confirm if they were the same.
https://i.imgur.com/5bbYebx.png
Response to screenshots:
Still waiting to hear back

√ΛレΛƦ buyer 2:
Initial response:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Sent screenshots I had of Maxo's eBook, asking to confirm if they were the same.
Spoiler (Click to View)
Response to screenshots:
Spoiler (Click to View)

√ΛレΛƦ buyer 3:
Initial response:
Spoiler (Click to View)
Sent screenshots I had of Maxo's eBook, asking to confirm if they were the same.
Spoiler (Click to View)
Response to screenshots:
Spoiler (Click to View)

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Let's move on to some sketchy shit that ŜHΔÐΣ and √ΛレΛƦ do!

Starting out, of course we gotta have the friend vouch as soon as the thread is posted
https://i.imgur.com/5CoKoRD.png
Whatever, it's fairly common knowledge that the eBook community here is a big circle jerk of everyone vouching for each other.

When a negative review is posted, ŜHΔÐΣ closes the sales thread, changes the title, and makes a new one.
His original sales thread here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5899446 - has been changed to "Selling Fortnite accounts" after a negative review in post 12. This edit was done two hours ago.
https://i.imgur.com/vUPjZ41.png

Also done two hours ago was the creation of a new sales thread here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5899719
https://i.imgur.com/24H0OCx.png

It appears that at one point ŜHΔÐΣ was selling Adobe CC upgrades, thread here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5875342
Same thing, on pages 3-4 people started posting negative reviews. The thread is no longer open, which I guess is good so people stop getting scammed.

This seems to be a common idea between him and √ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ since he's done the same thing.

A sales thread by √ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5871304
On the last page of the thread, two negative reviews were posted. A day later, the thread is changed to "Selling Fortnite accounts" and is "Under construction.

Another sales thread by √ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5871304
After Riyu posted a vouch basically saying the method was shit, followed by others calling him out, he closed his thread.

Another sales thread by √ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5857382 - is also closed now, I'm assuming from posts 567 and 572, which were both negative reviews.
The thread was closed at 1854
https://i.imgur.com/jRei3F0.png

Then a new thread was opened 12 minutes later at 1906 - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5902365
https://i.imgur.com/tFf3fg4.png

He has continued to close and open new threads after negative reviews were posted. These will be added to the top of this post under the "Edits" as they continue to happen.

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Pretty much sums it up. If anybody wants to dig more, feel free to post anything and I might add it to the OP.

Thanks and stay safe everyone!

[Mr. Robot]

OK then, I was bored and cbf looking into it but this is a bit more indepth. I don't know if they are multis of the users you posted as ebooks do float around but I have a long history of conversation with valor before his name change and he doesn't remember any of it. It was really personal for him at the time and i'm sure he'd remember.

Also interesting that he opened his thread again, he closed it before.

[James Burnham]

"Bought an eBook (Same one √ΛレΛƦ and ŜHΔÐΣ are currently selling) from MaxoKream back in June. Most of the methods were pure trash, the main one would have been decent except for the fact that I'm now getting sued by a large software company for doing it"
That is very serious. Sellers shouldn't label blackhat methods as whitehat and downplay the legal consequences of their guides.

[GreyGorilla]

Good job OP for providing these proofs, i will also open dispute soon on Valar, i am buyer of both Valar and Shade methods which are the same.
Too many scammers lately, admins need to be more strict about this.

[Mr. Robot]

One thing I think you missed is how Maxo uses ======== in his payment proof for his images. Not sure how many sellers use it.

The discord number thing being the same could be coincidence too but doubt it. Any mutual servers anyone with that user?

[SIM-1097664]

OK then, I was bored and cbf looking into it but this is a bit more indepth. I don't know if they are multis of the users you posted as ebooks do float around but I have a long history of conversation with valor before his name change and he doesn't remember any of it. It was really personal for him at the time and i'm sure he'd remember.

Also interesting that he opened his thread again, he closed it before.

It's the same Discord between Valar and Maxo. The sales thread of Shade and Maxo are damn near identical, have a thing written on that which I'll probably post later tonight.

"Bought an eBook (Same one √ΛレΛƦ and ŜHΔÐΣ are currently selling) from MaxoKream back in June. Most of the methods were pure trash, the main one would have been decent except for the fact that I'm now getting sued by a large software company for doing it"
That is very serious. Sellers shouldn't label blackhat methods as whitehat and downplay the legal consequences of their guides.

Yea was real nice to receive a lawsuit in the mail lmao. Still dealing with it today and it started like 3 months ago. Hopefully it doesn't cost more than the $2k already into it.

Good job OP for providing these proofs, i will also open dispute soon on Valar, i am buyer of both Valar and Shade methods which are the same.
Too many scammers lately, admins need to be more strict about this.

Glad I could be of assistance :)

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One thing I think you missed is how Maxo uses ======== in his payment proof for his images. Not sure how many sellers use it.

The discord  number thing being the same could be coincidence too but doubt it. Any mutual servers anyone with that user?

- Cut images for space -

Was going to do this later because I really need to sleep and didn't want to take the time to redo the images but fuck it. EDIT: Only had to change 1 image, yay!

ŜHΔÐΣ's Thread Title
https://i.imgur.com/TvBxCWP.png

MaxoKream's Thread Title
Spoiler (Click to View)

As far as sales threads go, they're all pretty similar, but what caught my attention was almost the exact same phrasing of "THE #1 AUTO-PILOT (INCOME/PROFIT) SYSTEM"
They also both claim roughly the same amount per day.

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Top Part Of ŜHΔÐΣ's Thread
Spoiler (Click to View)

Top Part Of MaxoKream's Thread
Spoiler (Click to View)

So starting off, the thread design was made by the same person for both threads. Not a huge deal, I'm sure he does a lot of these and the graphics at the top like "Working of December 2023" are fairly common. I'm looking more at the text beneath them.

Happen to have any questions or concerns? Feel free to contact me via any of the lines below:
Happen to have any questions or inquires regarding our methods? Please don't hesitate to contact us via one of the following support lines below:

Very similar in how that's written. They both use the word "Lines" which I don't think is very common. The contact names are very similar, both are the username followed by ".hf" The contact methods are both listed in the same way, including the PM MyCode which I also think isn't very common.

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ŜHΔÐΣ's Earnings
Spoiler (Click to View)

MaxoKream's Earnings
Spoiler (Click to View)

The text at the top is very similar, both using blue and white font.
Both PayPal accounts display USD and CAD values. Both PayPal accounts cashout to bank in CAD, the bank listed on Maxo's thread is a Canadian bank, so I'll assume he's Canadian.
Both have a notepad formatted very similarly, with some text, =======, then more text
Both income amounts are very similar, from $60-$120

√ΛレΛƦ's Earnings
Spoiler (Click to View)
Again, a PayPal in both CAD and USD

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ŜHΔÐΣ's Prices/Format
Spoiler (Click to View)

MaxoKream's Prices/Format
Spoiler (Click to View)

Besides the prices, these are formatted the exact same way. Same color of font split in the same spots, same "Click here to download..."

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ŜHΔÐΣ's Package Details
Spoiler (Click to View)

MaxoKream's Package Details
Spoiler (Click to View)

The details of the packages they offer are very similar as well. Both "basic" packages offer the same eBook, update fee, smaller amount of bonus content, limited support, and no refund. Both "advanced" packages offer the same eBook, free updates, larger amount of bonus content, full support, and full refund. They both also take the exact same payment methods - PayPal, BTC, and ETH - but I consider that a tiny detail as PayPal is a huge platform and BTC/ETH are probably the most common payment crypto.

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ŜHΔÐΣ's Terms
Spoiler (Click to View)

MaxoKream's Terms
Spoiler (Click to View)

Again, very similar formatting. Both in the bottom right of the page, both in smaller font, both in a spoiler tag. Now while TOS are generally pretty standard across the board, there's a couple that are literally copy/paste, including "You must wait 30 days...", "Proof might be asked for..."
Side note unrelated to proof, I love how he added "If I think it's sales trashing then it's sales trashing", so that if anyone posted a negative review he could just say it was sales trashing and refuse their refund. Nice job asshole. Negative reviews aren't sales trashing - From the Help Docs, "Discouraging a sale without proper reason" is a marketplace violation. If you had a bad experience with a product or it doesn't work, then posting a negative review is not "Discouraging a sale without proper reason". Your reason is the experience you had with it. It's very possible that he added this after I asked for my refund because we had the exact same discussion as I mentioned above.

Anyway, rant over.

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ŜHΔÐΣ's List Of Things The Method Isn't
Spoiler (Click to View)

MaxoKream's List Of Things The Method Isn't
Spoiler (Click to View)

√ΛレΛƦ's List Of Things The Method Isn't
Spoiler (Click to View)

Very similar list of things that the eBook doesn't include, along with calling them "Low quality methods." Looking at the entire Q&A section of ŜHΔÐΣ and √ΛレΛƦ, they are almost identical as well. Fun fact, I think everything offered from the main eBook and the bonus content is included in that list of "Low quality methods" or involves it in some way ;)

[Fortune]

If you guys didn't know, Autodesk proceed to sue someone that sold their software on eBay without their permission: http://vondranlegal.com/vernon-v-autodes...ight-case/

Anyways, this post is HQ and I'm so happy that you made it. Thank you OP 🤝

[SIM-1097664]

If you guys didn't know, Autodesk proceed to sue someone that sold their software on eBay without their permission: http://vondranlegal.com/vernon-v-autodes...ight-case/

Anyways, this post is HQ and I'm so happy that you made it. Thank you OP 🤝

Not gonna say if it was Autodesk or not, because you know, leaking and stuff, but I would for sure heavily advise never touching anything with their name on it 🤝

HQ is all I do bby ;)

[BigMoke]

I vouch for this post. Experience buying from Valar was a terrible experience.

[hdhd]

Nice work OP, really nice work :)

(It seems valar dont like your thread, -4 an hour ago, i can only give you +1 i guess its better than nothing)

[NotAFed]

Damn. Dude just got bent over and fucked raw. Good find op.

[lance4182]

shame when R3KT member does some 'Shady' shit..

[Sciota]

Woah i was going to buy his product and now i'm here reading this thread, thank you for saving my ass sir!

[no$fer7u]

daaaamn that sucks man i hope you get ya money back

[stackgod]

daaaamn that sucks man i hope you get ya money back

Definitely not going to happen brother.