[SIM-1097664]

I'd like to thank an anonymous user for pointing out to me Quiet's account. He hasn't started selling the same eBook as the last 5 accounts so I probably wouldn't have noticed it.

Previous community alert on Valar and friends - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5899515 - has reached the character limit so I'm continuing here

Latest account was Nike+, details here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id58058580

Let's get poppin.

Users:
Quiet | UID=971903 | https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...uid=971903
√ΛレΛƦ ＭΘƦＧHƱĿῘꜘS™ | UID=481087 | https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...uid=481087
Nike+ | UID=1611873 | https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=1611873

Account looks sold/hacked
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Quiet trust scan - https://i.imgur.com/SRneBXA.png
Email change and IP change on 12/27/18, multiple different IP's
This is a day after Nike+ was exposed by me and others on his own community alert: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id58057888
Six months ago Quiet said he lives in France - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id57398702 - https://i.imgur.com/NOPWuqg.png
He has multiple threads involving Euros - https://i.imgur.com/Iwux31t.png
Now Quiet is suddenly in Canada? He posts a sales thread here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5926590
With a screenshot from a Canadian bank - https://i.imgur.com/fyabTj0.png
Valar also used the same Canadian bank - https://i.imgur.com/jPPosGG.png
CIBC = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_I...f_Commerce
Above the bank screenshot is apparently one from Shopify stating "$650 in one day". Seems odd that he wouldn't use €
(We'll look at those screenshots more later)


Account Activity
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Nike+ recent post activity - https://i.imgur.com/COsfbyb.png
Quiet recent post activity - https://i.imgur.com/QjcjE5y.png and https://i.imgur.com/T49XpXH.png
So lets look at the times/dates
12/26: Nike+ posts a community alert and gets himself exposed, stops posting for a few days
12/27: Email and IP change on Quiet
12/27: Quiet makes his first post in 4 months
12/31 - 1/1: Quiet posts a handful of times, with several on Twitch subs threads including this one - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5924238
1/2 - 1/4: Nike+ posts a few more times, with 3 in the same Twitch subs thread as above
1-7: Quiet posts again here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5926590 - a sales thread for a Shopify niche. Also starts selling Twitch subs.

Pretty obvious he's bouncing between accounts, when one isn't posting, the other is
They both bought Twitch subs from the same seller
Quiet is now selling subs - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5926956
Nike+ eBook had a method on selling subs - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id58057888


Same Bank Screenshots
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As mentioned before, both Valar and Quiet have the same Canadian bank screenshots
Valar - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id57768527 - https://i.imgur.com/6BFmfaw.png
Quiet - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5926590 - https://i.imgur.com/3WuZDZ8.png

I cropped them to make them line up perfectly when placed on top of eachother (Didn't distort/stretch/etc the images at all)
Valar - https://i.imgur.com/vGjob7C.png
Quiet - https://i.imgur.com/XfthBl6.png

Obviously the screenshot from Quiet is missing the "US/USD" from the totals and account name. I'm guessing he used inspect element to edit it out so it would look different since I'm pretty sure I've called Valar out on matching banks before. Probably faked the numbers at the same time.

Now, it's hard to tell, but I'm 99% sure they're the same account numbers. Open both images in a new tab, zoom in on both pages, and switch back and forth between the tabs. In Chrome, you can use CTRL + PageDn/PageUp to do this quick. This is why I cropped them to the same size, to make it easy to spot similarities/differences.

Under "Chequing", you can see the tops of the numbers in each spot. They match perfectly. The first number looks like a 0 and that's fairly clear in both as well. I think the last digit is an 8, Valar's has a rounded top and bottom, Quiet's has the top and bottom blocked out but you can see the indent on the right side.

Under "Savings", he blocked this a little better so it's harder to see. The tops of the 5th, 6th, and 7th digits look like 0's on Valar's picture. Switching to Quiet's, the tops are blocked, but if you look close, there's a small gap in the red in the middle of the numbers and you can see the sides of each 0. This is pretty visible in the 6th and 7th digits. Same applies to the 8th digit which appears to be a 4. You can see the top of it in Valar's, and in Quiet's you can see the middle.

Under "Visa", there's not much to see. They both start with a 4, but all Visa cards do so we can't use that. You can barely see match are the bottoms of digits 5/6/7, which are in the exact same spots again. You can see the upper right of the last digit matches as well.

While he blocked out a lot, he left enough visible to make enough matches for me to say they're the same accounts. If anyone else is better at like photo forensic shit and would like to take a better look, feel free.



Sketchy Shit:
Won't Give More Earnings Proof
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Messaged him on Skype to get some more info, maybe some additional bank screenshots to compare to the above. He refused to give me any additional earnings proof because it could "Give away hints for the niche". I'm no Shopify guru, but I'm pretty damn sure a screenshot of a deposit from Shopify for $X,XXX dollars would give me absolutely 0 insight as to what the method/niche is. He claimed "As mentioned traffic, volume and sales ratios do give off a lot of info". I wasn't even asking for those numbers but again, even if he told me he had 10,000 visitors a day and 100 of them bought the product a day, I don't at all see how they could reveal the niche. Two people selling the same product will have entirely different numbers, so I don't know how you could ever link sales numbers or a fucking bank deposit to a specific product. I brought this up and he basically ignored it. Decided it was enough and asked him about being a multi. I even gave him credit for the fucking amount of dedication he puts to this lmao. Genuinely want to talk to him and understand if this is even worth it. He responded a couple times and ended up calling me a drunk or a troll, and now I'm blocked lol.
Skype convo below.
https://imgur.com/a/yiXgoio


Both Nike+ and Quiet Bought From Valar = Easy Targets To Buy Accounts
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Valar likes to ask previous customers if they want to sell their account. He asked me, you can see it in my original community alert.
The user Kuldar bought from Valar here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id57388740 - https://i.imgur.com/dnmB2wD.png
And was asked to sell his account here - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5907555 - https://i.imgur.com/HZ4p6oA.png
So Valar had a history of asking previous customers to buy their account

Quiet buying an eBook from Valar - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id57324823 - https://i.imgur.com/fduC88r.png
Nike+ buying an eBook from Valar - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id57455735 - https://i.imgur.com/pOXs8ub.png

Why buy accounts from previous customers?
1. Since you're already in contact with them, usually off site, this poses less risk than messaging members at random on site who are probably more likely to report you.
2. These customers are vulnerable and pissed off. They just spent $100+ on some bullshit eBook from you that doesn't work and you're never going to refund them, so they have a chance to get at least some of their money back if they sell their account.

Quiet was never super active. He has a total of 369 posts in 7 years, and only 21 in the last year before the account was sold. He was only invested in Ub3r. He got scammed in a currency exchange. He got scammed by Valar.
Nike+ was also fairly inactive, 859 posts in 5 years, 72 in the year before he sold the account. He was only l33t at the time, the R00t upgrade happened after the account was sold. He got scammed by Valar.

Neither account had a lot of time and barely any money invested into it. After getting scammed by you, they got an opportunity to make some money back. All they had to do was leave a forum that they got scammed on and never really cared that much about in the first place.


Think that's about it. Post what you think, add shit if you find it.

Thanks 🤝

[Opticals]

Damn... this is some detective type shit right here.

Very nice work bro, I can't wait to see what comes of this.

[PerfectStorm]

man thanks for the alert warning! not cool at all

[Sombre]

good work man.

Thanks for the alert.

[opiumden]

I ordered the set up package off him and he is actually doing the work and setting up the store!
I will continue to post updates anyhow regardless and you can draw a conclusion from the upcoming results!

[Jombah]

Great work man, nice alert

[SIM-1097664]

Damn... this is some detective type shit right here.

Very nice work bro, I can't wait to see what comes of this.

Probably nothing, but oh well.

I ordered the set up package off him and he is actually doing the work and setting up the store!
I will continue to post updates anyhow regardless and you can draw a conclusion from the upcoming results!

Well if you actually took time to read the thread, I think it's an easy conclusion to draw lol. Maybe he's legit now, but it's pretty obvious it's him on a sold/stolen account and I highly doubt things will work out in the long run.

Also, he never posted on the previous alerts and since you're buddies with him enough to tell him about the PM's I sent you, I'd be willing to bet he asked you post on here saying how good of a job he's doing :)

[XYLA]

This guy for some reason was the first to post on my threads and now I got myself a lovely community alert and signature. You don't have the right to chose what proof I show you friend, if you're not interested then the opportunity is not for you. I'm selling limited copies and am not interested in LQ business partners. I clearly asked you several times if you were interested in either the shopify niche or my twitch subs and you continued to argue until I suddenly turned into a multi in the skype chat. I don't have time for non-sense, it's why I blocked you. The skype chat is posted there so see it for yourself.

I recently moved to the US to continue my business ventures, I used to live in France but went to a private IB school so my English is strong. I have absolutely no connection with Canada so I don't know why you would assume that simply off a bank. If you truly did your research you'd find out that CIBC also operates in the US. They were offering a really good small business banking deal and I took them up on it. I don't have any canadian balance in my earnings proof clearly.
Link: https://us.cibc.com/en/home.html

Also dude I'll give it to you on the whole gauth coincidence but I disabled that back in early 2017 LOL. You're telling me I was somehow active throughout that whole time (buying hf products, doing exchanges, getting scammed by kirsty) and then suddenly I magically snapped and joined this whole scam spree on all these other accounts you accuse me of being? I've done several deals here on hf and have always been honest on my side. Even the members who have purchased my shopify store are super hyed and I am too. Seriously quite funny that you put a microscope on something that was 2 years ago, quite a desperate CA.

I know if I had my account stolen I would report it to omni immediately via the contact form especially knowing how much I value it. I'm pretty certain your account just gets closed though so I wouldn't even be here if that was true.

Just keep me out of this whole non-sense. Don't like what those other members you have listed are doing and I don't want to be affiliated with it. And you need to STOP harassing my customers, they've clearly all told you the exact opposite of what your lame community alert wants to hear.

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Also, he never posted on the previous alerts and since you're buddies with him enough to tell him about the PM's I sent you, I'd be willing to bet he asked you post on here saying how good of a job he's doing :)

Actually he chose to do that himself because we've already discussed the niche, have branded and are setting up a things are looking great in our partnership but it's nice of you to be assuming once again 🤝

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I am still patiently waiting on your response and actual reasoning as to why you think I am both a multi and scammer. You've been online this whole time so please enlighten me or remove this flimsy biased community alert.

[SIM-1097664]

This guy for some reason was the first to post on my threads and now I got myself a lovely community alert and signature. You don't have the right to chose what proof I show you friend, if you're not interested then the opportunity is not for you. I'm selling limited copies and am not interested in LQ business partners. I clearly asked you several times if you were interested in either the shopify niche or my twitch subs and you continued to argue until I suddenly turned into a multi in the skype chat. I don't have time for non-sense, it's why I blocked you. The skype chat is posted there so see it for yourself.

Seems like showing Shopify deposits would be pretty fucking simple. I could take a screenshot of by bank and post it in 3 seconds, so I don't know why it's so hard for you to do so. You still haven't explained how a deposit amount can tell me what your niche is, and you probably never will because it doesn't make any sense lmao. Even if I had legitimately been interested, you lack of showing simple proof would have put me off buying.

I recently moved to the US to continue my business ventures, I used to live in France but went to a private IB school so my English is strong. I have absolutely no connection with Canada so I don't know why you would assume that simply off a bank. If you truly did your research you'd find out that CIBC also operates in the US. They were offering a really good small business banking deal and I took them up on it. I don't have any canadian balance in my earnings proof clearly.
Link: https://us.cibc.com/en/home.html

Wow, you moved to the USA, what a coincidence. I still see a couple things wrong.
1. So you have a USA CIBC account? Strange, because your screenshot says "Chequing", a spelling which I have never seen in the USA. It's "Checking" down here. I guess it's possible it's some weird shit they do since it's Canadian. Tempted to open an account and check myself lol.
2. Strange how your account numbers match the other
3. Looking at some past posts, your English has obvious grammatical errors in it compared to now.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5750558
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5759522
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5525076
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=4833085
The account used phrases like "Today i sell you this..." and "This Service take time", rambling sentences, and rarely capitalized a first person "I". Now your grammar is pretty solid. It's almost like the account went from a French owner to you ;)

Also dude I'll give it to you on the whole gauth coincidence but I disabled that back in early 2017 LOL. You're telling me I was somehow active throughout that whole time (buying hf products, doing exchanges, getting scammed by kirsty) and then suddenly I magically snapped and joined this whole scam spree on all these other accounts you accuse me of being? I've done several deals here on hf and have always been honest on my side. Even the members who have purchased my shopify store are super hyed and I am too. Seriously quite funny that you put a microscope on something that was 2 years ago, quite a desperate CA.

Reading must be hard, since I clearly said I was pretty unsure about using that as a point and thought it was just another coincidence and you possibly bought them at the same time, disabled Gauth, and allowed the owners to use them like normal until you needed the accounts. Would be strange, but also could be an attempt at making them look less suspicious as Gauth/Email/Password changes all on the same day would be more obvious.

Again, for the 3rd time, I've already said it's not a solid point, just some thoughts.

I know if I had my account stolen I would report it to omni immediately via the contact form especially knowing how much I value it. I'm pretty certain your account just gets closed though so I wouldn't even be here if that was true.

The owner wouldn't do that if they sold it lmao.

Just keep me out of this whole non-sense. Don't like what those other members you have listed are doing and I don't want to be affiliated with it. And you need to STOP harassing my customers, they've clearly all told you the exact opposite of what your lame community alert wants to hear.

I'm not harassing anybody, I'm reminding users to do their research on the people they deal with. I'm not telling anyone to not buy your stuff. I asked one person if you were selling a public niche and he told me no, and I didn't include that in this awesome community alert :)

So overall: Email and IP change the day after Nike+ get's exposed, then you're suddenly active and selling shit after 4 months of inactivity and more inactivity before that. You sell Twitch subs which Nike+ had a bot for as well. You both bought subs from the same seller. That seller now drops a vouch on your Shopify shit. When you were posting, Nike+ wasn't and vice versa. You all use CIBC. The account numbers match up. Grammar has clearly changed like it would if you and the original account owner spoke different languages.

Hell of a lot of coincidences, but I'm glad it's all explained by "you moving to the USA"  👍

Time to move on to the next account buddy.

[isu]

Amazing job OP! 🤝

[XYLA]

1. You dont chose the proof you see. Once again, dont like it? Move on to the next product, youre really salty about that one.
2. How the fuck do I have the same cibc account numbers when ive covered up my digits. You guessing covered up numbers like a 4 at the start of my credit card is handsdown the funniest attempt at evidence for a CA
3. Right so lets assume my account was sold. You still didnt explain how I was active this whole time BUYING HF PRODUCTS, EXCHANGING AND EVEN GETTING SCAMMED recently. How the fuck would i be doing all this while orchestrating the accoubts you claim me to be, ridiculous.
4. It seems like the only “coincidences” you’re interested in are the ones that support your bogus alert (2017 auth, card on bank both starts with 4 LOL)
5. I never used proper grammar on hf until I became serious with the market, I was an hf mobile user for the most part as well until recent.

If your whole gauth part doesnt make sense like YOU say then why would you add random info in then, what a jackass. Same question about cibc. I guess your shitty response “not proof but some thoughts” explains this whole community alert.

[Frukt]

You are doing a great job to protect Hackforums!

Keep it up 🤝

[gore]

Just a FYI, Omni did a mass reset on the 2FA back on 3/18/17, so he disabled everyones and if they didn't set it up again, that's their last validation.
Mine is the same.

Other than that, definitely an eyebrow raiser. Thanks for the info.

[SIM-1097664]

1. You dont chose the proof you see. Once again, dont like it? Move on to the next product, youre really salty about that one.
2. How the fuck do I have the same cibc account numbers when ive covered up my digits. You guessing covered up numbers like a 4 at the start of my credit card is handsdown the funniest attempt at evidence for a CA
3. Right so lets assume my account was sold. You still didnt explain how I was active this whole time BUYING HF PRODUCTS, EXCHANGING AND EVEN GETTING SCAMMED recently. How the fuck would i be doing all this while orchestrating the accoubts you claim me to be, ridiculous.
4. It seems like the only “coincidences” you’re interested in are the ones that support your bogus alert (2017 auth, card on bank both starts with 4 LOL)
5. I never used proper grammar on hf until I became serious with the market, I was an hf mobile user for the most part as well until recent.

If your whole gauth part doesnt make sense like YOU say then why would you add random info in then, what a jackass. Same question about cibc. I guess your shitty response “not proof but some thoughts” explains this whole community alert.

1. Provide whatever "proof" you want, it's just a huge red flag to not want to do more than a single screenshot.
2. You left enough visible to make matches
3. The owner got scammed a year ago. If anything, makes him more willing to sell his account. Account posted 21 times in the last year before the password reset, with the last being 8/25. The last exchange you did was 7/25. Your last two posts were asking for free shit. I wouldn't call that active.
4. I've removed my opinion on the auth. Enough of the other numbers match as well but let's ignore those LOL
5. a) That doesn't explain using the wrong verb tense. Saying shit like "I sell him" or "I hope i will help some of you that doesn't want to be spied" isn't explained by being on mobile, as you'd still say "I sold him", not "I sell him"
5. b) Mobile should also auto-capitalize most singular "I" uses, so that also doesn't make sense.

Also, just discovered that the original owner bought an eBook from the Valar account - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id57324823
1. This adds to a reason of why he'd sell the account. After getting scammed in the CE section and getting scammed by your bullshit eBook, he was probably happy to leave the forum and make a little money back.
2. You're already in contact with the user, making it easy to ask if they want to sell it. You asked me after I bought your bullshit and realized I got scammed by it. You wouldn't necessarily want to PM random members asking to buy their account since you ask the wrong one and you'd get reported. It's easier to ask someone who you've ripped off since they'd be happy to make some money back and would probably be done with the forum anyway.
3. More broken grammar - "ARE YOU READY TO GET PROFITING?:Yes, i do !" - "Yes, i do" should be "Yes, I am!" and being on mobile wouldn't cause you to type a grammatically wrong response.
Aaaand just noticed Nike+ bought from the Valar account as well - https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id57455735
Same points as above. Vulnerable, pissed off user who you were already in contact with.

Stay mad that your new account got exposed a day after you started selling shit  😏 🤫

Just a FYI, Omni did a mass reset on the 2FA back on 3/18/17, so he disabled everyones and if they didn't set it up again, that's their last validation.
Mine is the same.

Other than that, definitely an eyebrow raiser. Thanks for the info.

Thanks for letting me know.

[XYLA]

Oh my god you definitely got me. I clearly sold my uber to the same member who sold me a shitty public method and scammed countless others. I'm done responding to this dispute, that thick skull of yourself is clearly to brainwashed to realize common sense.