[Yert]

Contract Link: https://hackforums.net/contracts.php?act...cid=153025
Disputed Member: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=4355246

OP needs to confirm deals on site to make sure everything is aligned and straight forward!!

Not just send random payments if and when he wants to. to a certain address that can always change.
I deal with so many users per day, my info does not stay the same.

All deals I do will be confirmed on site, you can ask anyone. This is the rules, and not only that but it does make things much safer.

I will only use a contract to go off of-regardless of the situation and what you tell me elsewhere.

Please do not continue to slander false/falsifying information about me.

[Seasons]

Contract Link: https://hackforums.net/contracts.php?act...cid=153025
Disputed Member: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=4355246

OP needs to confirm deals on site to make sure everything is aligned and straight forward!!

Not just send random payments if and when he wants to. to a certain address that can always change.
I deal with so many users per day, my info does not stay the same.

All deals I do will be confirmed on site, you can ask anyone. This is the rules, and not only that but it does make things much safer.

I will only use a contract to go off of-regardless of the situation and what you tell me elsewhere.

Please do not continue to slander false/falsifying information about me.

You literally just proved that you use carded accounts lol.. your info does not stay the same. Sad really lol.

[Yert]

You literally just proved that you use carded accounts lol.. your info does not stay the same. Sad really lol.

My info such as my cashapp, paypal, and zelle emails. You are out of context dude. I need you to grow the fuck up and take your loss and stop slandering my name. I have not seen any money from you other than the contracts you invalidly disputed.

These were contracts made to be done successfully. I only deal on-site.

[Blogger]

If you only do deals on-site and they must use a contract, why did you tell Seasoned eWhore not to start a contract?

[LoremIpsum]

Did you open twice the same thread or is the second one about a different Contract?
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=6061366

[Yert]

If you only do deals on-site and they must use a contract, why did you tell Seasoned eWhore not to start a contract?

Because why would he start a contract without my correct cashapp? I don't know where the user was talking about $300 from.

[Seasons]

If you only do deals on-site and they must use a contract, why did you tell Seasoned eWhore not to start a contract?

To add to your point, before he claims not to be the one I contacted on Discord

https://gyazo.com/0048c83ace443d68419598f7e9e8c9cc

He said it himself on his own thread. Watch him archive the thread when he sees this.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...911&page=5

I don't mind taking the 350$ loss but I'd feel awful if new members get scammed out of their hard worked money by OP.

[Yert]

Did you open twice the same thread or is the second one about a different Contract?
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=6061366

The dispute he currently has open on me is a false dispute, both of our transactions contract were finished. OP thinks I owe him $300 for I am not sure what?

[LoremIpsum]

The dispute he currently has open on me is a false dispute, both of our transactions contract were finished. OP thinks I owe him $300 for I am not sure what?

I really hope you'll get this solved, but I highly doubt it as the opposite side of this dispute was browsing HF a moment ago and didn't reply yet on this thread. Assumings though, I can't be sure.

[Yert]

To add to your point, before he claims not to be the one I contacted on Discord

https://gyazo.com/0048c83ace443d68419598f7e9e8c9cc

He said it himself on his own thread. Watch him archive the thread when he sees this.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...911&page=5

I don't mind taking the 350$ loss but I'd feel awful if new members get scammed out of their hard worked money by OP.

Falsifying more information? Seriously. Like I said, if you want to clear this up like a MAN you can contact me personally through PM's

[Seasons]

I posted all the proof I have on my own thread. As I said, I don't mind proving more, posting the whole chat. And the 350$ loss is no worries. Just know that you should exercise caution when dealing with this user.

[Blogger]

Because why would he start a contract without my correct cashapp? I don't know where the user was talking about $300 from.

I don't see how that is relevant. YOU can add your own payment method after the contract is created. He would create the contract with all of the information he has(both payment methods are not necessary to create/start a contract), once created you'll get a notification that someone started a contract, from there you have the ability to add your payment method. He did not have to add it for you. But with 76 completed deals under your belt, you already knew all of that. So I reiterate, if you only do deals on-site and they must use a contract, why did you tell Seasoned eWhore not to start a contract?

[Yert]

I don't see how that is relevant. YOU can add your own payment method after the contract is created. He would create the contract with all of the information he has(both payment methods are not necessary to create/start a contract), once created you'll get a notification that someone started a contract, from there you have the ability to add your payment method. He did not have to add it for you. But with 76 completed deals under your belt, you already knew all of that. So I reiterate, if you only do deals on-site and they must use a contract, why did you tell Seasoned eWhore not to start a contract?

You aren't following this situation. There was never a contract created for this transaction he is talking about? Do you follow me.

This amount of $300? I am not sure whom or where it has came from but I have no receivial of $300 from this user, nor a contract. Do you follow me?

This user said he sent me $300, where the fuck is the $300? Where the fuck is the contract?

[Seasons]

Since this post gets more traction than the one I disputed, I'll post it here for everyone to read!

DEAL WITH EXTREME CAUTION.

Oh boy, where do I start? Most of you guys read the thread about Ziggson and this user in question. The difference between me and Ziggson is that a 350$ scam doesn't hurt my daily business at all. Ziggson got pressured into closing the thread. I won't let new members be belittled like that by some random vendor.

I've done quite a few big deals on this site with big exchangers. Most of them seem to have a business sense and ethic.
This changed when I stumbled upon our person in question. I wish I checked his thread before he closed it since other members were already commenting 'DWC'. This person was promoting non-contracted exchanged off-site. This alone is bannable.

See this GIF to see how he is encouraging off-site non-contracted deals.
https://gyazo.com/e0e30eb6049ac728e15fae0a015dd3cd

Just incase he decided to change his discord name in his bio:
https://gyazo.com/8281c8eb43e1f2f779a1732b7ab8d020

and a post couple minutes ago:
https://gyazo.com/98db65a84ea587313d628ee4bf1d8ecb

And at last, the PM he send me on HF:
https://gyazo.com/9556a9740cd2ff678f8e0a95d8ccc20f


We all know that talking on Discord is not the way to go and yada-yada. Put yourself in the shoes of new members. When they see a vendor, posting a thread. Do you really think that they suspect this vendor, someone who clearly has more experience in this site, will scam them? No. That's what this thread is for, helping new members.
However, this is just the start of everything. Between now and a couple of months more deal disputes will pop up. Why? This user uses carded accounts to send funds to the HF members. How do I know? Because this user was active on other forums doing the same Clay Davis. Notice how he is active in all kinds of subforums trying to sell Clay Davis with stolen funds.
That alone is already shitty enough and you will see more deal disputes popping up between now and a couple months about this user.

But this wasn't what led me to this deal dispute. (keep in mind, the thread in question was posted in Currency Exchange, this user was offering Zelle/Paypal/Zelle/Cashapp for BTC, this was removed after me and other users commented under it saying he was trying to encourage off-site transactions)

This user will first start off by asking you to do contract payments to build trust.
That's exactly what I did. We started off by doing two contracts for two Zelle payments.

Zelle payment 1 (250$):
https://gyazo.com/283cd3f22b1515336990b4bfa77d0972

Zelle payment 2(350$):
https://gyazo.com/85c83ee3ea34fe75bb806bb95633703c

Keep in mind, things were already starting to get fishy. He promised a certain % but changed it afterwards.
https://gyazo.com/36bf74c228842cb38fa8e31a41a32cf6

But okay, it's no biggy. We make around 1k a day, fishy exchangers are part of the business.
Now, we get to the juicy part. OP told me he wanted to save up for a MacBook and was happy to do business with me.

For the third Zelle payment, OP asked me NOT to do a contract(see previous GIF).
So, what do you think happened? Exactly. The screenshots will speak for themselves. He scammed 350$. Haven't received anything yet.

https://gyazo.com/b29f5bbd80e450f211ce2092eb0500ea
https://gyazo.com/34bae2e47820f32c13db1e44997db932
https://gyazo.com/814181ba2f4667ae4af53bf9985ea2de
https://gyazo.com/183a8e17948ce356cf794be455510f7a
https://gyazo.com/efcf6809e5e5dcacb60e378ab21c4d91

The guy blocked me afterwards. New members, please be careful trading with this guy! Furthermore, be extremely careful when receiving Zelle/Paypal/Cashapp from OP. He is using stealth accounts to send funds, AKA carded accounts. What does this mean for you? Your Paypal/Zelle/Cashapp account will close as soon as they see that the payments that you received were fraudelent.

I hope I helped some new members out. For further prove or whatsoever, PM me. I encourage everyone NOT to deal with him untill he shows proof that he changed his ways. I wish him the best, I understand everyone wants to make money but defrauding forum members and scamming them is not the way to go.

EDIT: How could I forget? The payment in question lol!
https://gyazo.com/b928abe3de54c33f93767eff78777293
350$ Zelle

[Blogger]

You aren't following this situation. There was never a contract created for this transaction he is talking about? Do you follow me.

This amount of $300? I am not sure whom or where it has came from but I have no receivial of $300 from this user, nor a contract. Do you follow me?

This user said he sent me $300, where the fugg is the $300? Where the fugg is the contract?

No, you aren't following. You can't create a dispute without a contract. That link above that says "Contract Link", yeah, that's the link to the contract. Do you follow me?

Who the fuck is talking about $300? Oh, you. Just you. Seasoned eWhore is talking about the 350 ZELLE that he gave you in exchange for the $240 BTC that you were supposed to give him but never did. Still following me?

This is about the $350 in Zelle that you've stolen, not a random $300. Not once in this deal dispute have I seen anyone but you mention sending you $300. So who knows where the fuck that money is? It's irrelevant. You still following me?

If you're still having trouble finding the contract that the user is referring to, HF has made it so that a link to it is provided in your first post of a dispute. Just scroll up. That is where the fuck the contract is. Hope you're still following.