Following recent events where users have self-banned after a dispute has been opened against them, I feel like it would be a decent idea to disallow self-banning after a dispute has been opened.
This prevents potential scammers from avoiding the dispute and attempting to get away with it.
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(Mar 16, 2021 09:04 AM)Velma Wrote: Following recent events where users have self-banned after a dispute has been opened against them, I feel like it would be a decent idea to disallow self-banning after a dispute has been opened.
This prevents potential scammers from avoiding the dispute and attempting to get away with it.
I also agree with this.
What is self banning? What is the difference between getting banned by being exposed as a scammer vs scamming all, being exposed, and self banning?
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(Mar 16, 2021 09:12 AM)BigMikeB69 Wrote: What is self banning? What is the difference between getting banned by being exposed as a scammer vs scamming all, being exposed, and self banning?
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(Mar 16, 2021 09:13 AM)James Wrote: Self banning is where a user takes a vacation ban and bans themselves. Different to being banned by staff.
Either way when they come back they are banned because clearly 6+ people got scammed by him?
(Mar 16, 2021 09:15 AM)James Wrote: Not necessarily. Staff don't usually get involved in deal disputes.
but will they not have still 6 open disputes if they come back after their self ban for all potential contract members to see?
(Mar 16, 2021 09:18 AM)James Wrote: Yes the disputes would still be open
then i do not see the problem... but staff should ban either way
scam -> self ban -> they think you got banned for scamming (or smth) -> might not even open a dispute
I agree with this and I'll add:
If you have open contracts, same thing as I've seen some disputes of people who bought something and the second the other person sent the money they self banned
Mar 16, 2021 10:50 AM
(This post was last modified: Mar 16, 2021 10:51 AM by Eagle 95.)
(Mar 16, 2021 09:04 AM)Velma Wrote: This prevents potential scammers from avoiding the dispute and attempting to get away with it.
How they are getting away with it? Opened dispute stays on your profile until it's resolved. It doesn't matter if you're banned or not.
Edit: Okay, let's say we make you can't self-ban if you have a dd open. How is that going to help to solve any dispute? If a scammer doesn't want to reply, he won't lol.
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(Mar 16, 2021 10:50 AM)Eagle 95 Wrote: How they are getting away with it? Opened dispute stays on your profile until it's resolved. It doesn't matter if you're banned or not.
Edit: Okay, let's say we make you can't self-ban if you have a dd open. How is that going to help to solve any dispute? If a scammer doesn't want to reply, he won't lol.
i think it just forces them to resolve it or admit to scamming. There are a few members i can think of that have returned and people have "forgotten" somehow aboutr all there deal disputes and started dealing with them again
Mar 16, 2021 10:55 AM
(This post was last modified: Mar 16, 2021 10:57 AM by Angela White.)
I think we should just start publicly hanging people who exit scam.
Also, maybe instead of not allowing selfbans with open disputes, maybe if you get 3 or more disputes opened on you within 48 hours and try to selfban yourself it will auto-close your account?
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(Mar 16, 2021 10:54 AM)Grim Wrote: i think it just forces them to resolve it or admit to scamming. There are a few members i can think of that have returned and people have "forgotten" somehow aboutr all there deal disputes and started dealing with them again
It doesn't force anyone to do anything lol. You can't really forget a big red number on your profile and it serves as valuable info to any potential customer/buyer/whatever who looks at their profile.
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(Mar 16, 2021 10:57 AM)Eagle 95 Wrote: It doesn't force anyone to do anything lol. You can't really forget a big red number on your profile and it serves as valuable info to any potential customer/buyer/whatever who looks at their profile.
Very true sadly some newer members still do though. And the previous members they scammed arnt there to warn them But i guess your right they should just look at their previous contracts which should tell them enough.
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The only good reason was that if somebody has self banned a newbie could think they're banned and not bother opening a deal dispute.
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