[Red Sand - Sasori]

Welcome to real life the account is already secure if you don't use the same password and don't download viruses it's like real life you pay for security.

It's not like I'd lose my account anyway. 😠

[Omniscient]

Those randoms are still valuable members of the community. You shouldn't help people only because they give you money.

Absolutely agree with you that regular members add value to the community but....not necessarily to the Marketplace. I've rarely created restrictions in non-Marketplace sections that push out non-upgraded members. I believe the exceptions are SRPP and RAT which both do have options based on Prestige to participate.

I didn't know account recovery was a perk or a "feature".

Account recovery is a cumbersome process. 2FA itself requires resources. I have no incentive to give regular accounts either. I am however considering lowering the price of 3P1C so that it's a viable option for members on a lower budget to at least have extra account security.

I also want to note that accounts lost or stolen are because members are irresponsible. It's not because HF itself is insecure. With the real logic that members are at fault for lost accounts the fact remains that even with 2FA or other security measures they will continue to lose their accounts to tomfoolery and shenanigans.

So my plan going forward is to recognize patterns consistent with a stolen account and create automated responses like alerts to staff, account marking, and even automatic bans.

[Redwall]

Sounds good.
Keep people on their toes about account security and responsibility.

[Red Sand - Sasori]

Absolutely agree with you that regular members add value to the community but....not necessarily to the Marketplace. I've rarely created restrictions in non-Marketplace sections that push out non-upgraded members. I believe the exceptions are SRPP and RAT which both do have options based on Prestige to participate.


Account recovery is a cumbersome process. 2FA itself requires resources. I have no incentive to give regular accounts either. I am however considering lowering the price of 3P1C so that it's a viable option for members on a lower budget to at least have extra account security.

I also want to note that accounts lost or stolen are because members are irresponsible. It's not because HF itself is insecure. With the real logic that members are at fault for lost accounts the fact remains that even with 2FA or other security measures they will continue to lose their accounts to tomfoolery and shenanigans.

So my plan going forward is to recognize patterns consistent with a stolen account and create automated responses like alerts to staff, account marking, and even automatic bans.

If someone loses their account for dumb reasons, I agree with you one hundred percent.

However if something happened to their PC and they had to wipe and it and they just happen to lose email access to the email attached to their account then they should have a chance at account recovery.

A lot of email service providers have been locking super old accounts. (in Yahoo's case straight up deleting them)

[Zexo]

If someone loses their account for dumb reasons, I agree with you one hundred percent.

However if something happened to their PC and they had to wipe and it and they just happen to lose email access to the email attached to their account then they should have a chance at account recovery.

A lot of email service providers have been locking super old accounts. (in Yahoo's case straight up deleting them)

If someone really cares enough about there hf account they would use an email they use on a daily basis.

[ZuGgY]

Read through, great addition.

Thanks Omni.

[Raptor.]

If someone really cares enough about there hf account they would use an email they use on a daily basis.

Not necessarily lol, it's probably far more secure to use a separate email from anything else.

[Zexo]

Not necessarily lol, it's probably far more secure to use a separate email from anything else.

I guess not on a daily basis but they wouldn't use a email they would forget the login to.

[reBELLYus]

Plenty good. I say go for it.

[Xerotic]

If someone loses their account for dumb reasons, I agree with you one hundred percent.

However if something happened to their PC and they had to wipe and it and they just happen to lose email access to the email attached to their account then they should have a chance at account recovery.

A lot of email service providers have been locking super old accounts. (in Yahoo's case straight up deleting them)

If you lose access to your email account you will still have access to your HF account. You can login to HF as normal and change your email from there. If you lose access to your HF account and your email then refer to the original post. Your email will not help you if your account is stolen as the attacker will likely change the email on file. If you forgot your password to HF and lost access to your email then refer to the original post and see that you are held liable for remembering your account credentials.

[Red Sand - Sasori]

If you lose access to your email account you will still have access to your HF account. You can login to HF as normal and change your email from there. If you lose access to your HF account and your email then refer to the original post. Your email will not help you if your account is stolen as the attacker will likely change the email on file. If you forgot your password to HF and lost access to your email then refer to the original post and see that you are held liable for remembering your account credentials.

Refer to the original dick.

[Agent Shark]

I'm not sure if you remember me emailing you in regards to my account earlier but, is there a reason why I wasn't able to login to my account with my email?

[w؜؜؜؜؜illiam؜؜؜؜]

Sounds great Omni. Great job with all the recent security measures you've taken, I do not think many more accounts will be compromised. Happy holidays to you sir.

[Temp_Rayyy]

"If an upgraded account has 2FA enabled (GAUTH) and is stolen or lost and reported before any Deal Disputes threads, scammer reputations, or Deal Dispute Database entries are placed against the account, the account will be banned as "Possibly stolen, lost, or compromised." Pending an investigation the account may be recovered to the original owner provided enough evidence of the accounts original ownership." Does that mean there wasn't enough evidence that Rayyy is my account? When you PMed me, you said the account will stay closed, so I'm a bit confused.

[Ninetales.]

I'm not sure if you remember me emailing you in regards to my account earlier but, is there a reason why I wasn't able to login to my account with my email?

Because he disabled it.