[CueBasE]

Also how often were the firearms related to crimes actually legally owned.

Except

1) You claimed .308 were higher fire rates
2) Fire rates will have no difference on an AR15 as its a semi auto
3) You litterally claimed .223 are more deadly


You actually called the AR15 "assault style"


No you can't you ignored 90% of my post and replied to 10% of it and were still wrong. You are a liar. You are not arguing in good faith every single post you made you LIED you are just spamming out lies just trying to get people to hate guns.

You literally called yourself pro gun while saying people having a right to own guns is stupid.

So you still didn’t read the whole thread?

I said the advantage of having an AR chambered in .308 is higher rate of fire. Meaning compared to a standard rifle, the AR can be more easily modified for higher rate. Read the thread to see WHY I said that.

Yes, I said asualt STYLE weapons. I didn’t say actual Asault rifles.

I work in law enforcement so yes I’m pro gun. However I don’t agree that people should be able to own almost any type of gun.

You done? Go read the thread.

[The_Right_Stuff]

I said the advantage of having an AR chambered in .308 is higher rate of fire.  Meaning compared to a standard rifle, the AR can be more easily modified for higher rate.  Read the thread to see WHY I said that.

That is not true at all though and statements like this are why we laugh at you. You have 0 understanding of how guns work or what the numbers even mean. You realize .308 is bigger than .223 right?

.308 rifles typically have a LOWER effective fire rate than .223 BECAUSE ITS A BIGGER FUCKING BULLET. What the fuck are you claiming that a .308 has higher rate of fire?

AR15's can fire faster than you can humanly pull the trigger and it would not be faster on either ammo type due to the human bottleneck. Literally any decent rifle you buy can handle faster fire rate than a person can humanly pull the trigger.

The gun may take more damage on .308 as the rounds are literally 3x larger.

Yes, I said asualt STYLE weapons.  I didn’t say actual Asault rifles.

I work in law enforcement so yes I’m pro gun.  However I don’t agree that people should be able to own almost any type of gun.  

You done?  Go read the thread.

Assault Style Weapon is not a word that has any meaning at all and by using that word you prove you have 0 knowledge of how guns work.


I also don't even get your inconsistencies you also claim that .308 guns are somehow more moral than a .223 AR15 then somehow change later to saying .308 AR15's are magically faster fire rate.

I doubt you are law enforcement as you don't have any idea how guns or physics work and you are a known liar as well I feel like anyone who has actually fired a gun would atleast know how a gun works somewhat. Unless by law enforcement you mean you work at the ATF or DEA where the only requirement for the job is you must have a sub 90 iq.

You also have no idea what a fucking rifle is every single thing you mentioned about guns is completely wrong. Like for fucks sake you unironically support banning AR15's while claiming to support guns.

[CueBasE]

That is not true at all though and statements like this are why we laugh at you. You have 0 understanding of how guns work or what the numbers even mean. You realize .308 is bigger than .223 right?

.308 rifles typically have a LOWER effective fire rate than .223 BECAUSE ITS A BIGGER FUCKING BULLET. What the fuck are you claiming that a .308 has higher rate of fire?

AR15's can fire faster than you can humanly pull the trigger and it would not be faster on either ammo type due to the human bottleneck. Literally any decent rifle you buy can handle faster fire rate than a person can humanly pull the trigger.

The gun may take more damage on .308 as the rounds are literally 3x larger.



Assault Style Weapon is not a word that has any meaning at all and by using that word you prove you have 0 knowledge of how guns work.


I also don't even get your inconsistencies you also claim that .308 guns are somehow more moral than a .223 AR15 then somehow change later to saying .308 AR15's are magically faster fire rate.

I doubt you are law enforcement as you don't have any idea how guns or physics work and you are a known liar as well I feel like anyone who has actually fired a gun would atleast know how a gun works somewhat. Unless by law enforcement you mean you work at the ATF or DEA where the only requirement for the job is you must have a sub 90 iq.

You also have no idea what a fucking rifle is every single thing you mentioned about guns is completely wrong. Like for fucks sake you unironically support banning AR15's while claiming to support guns.

Oh Jesus Christ you are dense.
The discussion of the .308 compared to 223 is irrelevant.

If you take a double action revolver and a semi auto pistol chambered the same, the semi auto pistol is going to be mechanically capable of being modified to shoot faster. It also can be fitted with extended mags. Therefore the semi automatic pistol is the more leathal of the two.

Do you understand or do I need to color it out with crayons?

What’s the problem with being against the general population owning ARs? Name a reason you need one instead of a handgun? Explain how you’ll ever need to eliminate someone from 200
Yards away because you are in immediate danger.

Last month I witnessed a call for a mass shooting at a Jewish synagogue, the actor was described to have had an assault style weapon. It was later determined to be an AR15. So I don’t understand why you can wrap that around your head.

[The_Right_Stuff]

Oh Jesus Christ you are dense.  
The discussion of the .308 compared to 223 is irrelevant.  

Yes it is you litterally started this when you claimed .308 rifles were fine but .223 are not.

Last month I witnessed a call for a mass shooting at a Jewish synagogue, the actor was described to have had an assault style weapon. It was later determined to be an AR15. So I don’t understand why you can wrap that around your head.

>Assault Style weapon

Again made up term that anyone uses has no idea how guns work. AR15 are not assault style that is not a thing that exist.

A gun is an assault rifle or it is not. AR15's are not assault style weapons. There is no such thing as an assault style weapon your making up scary words because your a lying sack of shit.

If you take a double action revolver and a semi auto pistol chambered the same, the semi auto pistol is going to be mechanically capable of being modified to shoot faster.  It also can be fitted with extended mags.  Therefore the semi automatic pistol is the more leathal of the two.

I don't even get what you are trying to say here as related to the previous discussion. Why do you think AR15's are magic?

Also Revolvers are more deadly than Semi automatic handguns and are less likely to jam as well however its much easier to handle and conceal carry a normal handgun.

What’s the problem with being against the general population owning ARs?  Name a reason you need one instead of a handgun?  Explain how you’ll ever need to eliminate someone from 200
Yards away because you are in immediate danger.

1) Handguns cannot shoot wild animals attacking my farm for shit
2) Bears & Moose are in my yard attacking my animals often
3) Hunting
4) Fuck you tell me why I don't need one.
5) Self defense
6) Hunting Rifles have same effective range as an AR15 there is no functional difference between a generic hunting rifle and an AR15.



I should be legally allowed to own automatic rifles and anyone who disagrees with this is a communist cuck traitor who is violating my natural god given rights and should be deported.

[CueBasE]

Yes it is you litterally started this when you claimed .308 rifles were fine but .223 are not.


>Assault Style weapon

Again made up term that anyone uses has no idea how guns work. AR15 are not assault style that is not a thing that exist.

A gun is an assault rifle or it is not. AR15's are not assault style weapons. There is no such thing as an assault style weapon your making up scary words because your a lying sack of shit.

I don't even get what you are trying to say here as related to the previous discussion. Why do you think AR15's are magic?

Also Revolvers are more deadly than Semi automatic handguns and are less likely to jam as well however its much easier to handle and conceal carry a normal handgun.


1) Handguns cannot shoot wild animals attacking my farm for shit
2) Bears & Moose are in my yard attacking my animals often
3) Hunting
4) Fuck you tell me why I don't need one.
5) Self defense
6) Hunting Rifles have same effective range as an AR15 there is no functional difference between a generic hunting rifle and an AR15.



I should be legally allowed to own automatic rifles and anyone who disagrees with this is a communist cuck traitor who is violating my natural god given rights and should be deported.

So finally we are back to square one and you reinforced my theory. You can kill wild animals on your farm with a hunting rife. Why use an AR?

So someone breaks into your house with a weapon and you need to defend yourself, you’re telling me you’d rather clear the house with a long gun and limit your mobility instead of using a handgun? Say the bad guy gets into your personal circle, how can you shoot someone with that bulky AR When they are 1 foot away from you?

I’m currently wearing a glock 17 service pistol on my hip which hasn’t jammed yet after 2000+ rounds.

My .38 on the other hand has.

[falkenburry]

You brought Asault Rifles into the conversation,  not me.  An AR isn’t an Asault Rifle.

You called it an "Assault Style" in one of your posts. What the hell even is that?
I skimmed through your posts; you have no idea what you're talking about.

[CueBasE]

You called it an "Assault Style" in one of your posts. What the hell even is that?
I skimmed through your posts; you have no idea what you're talking about.

Google “Assault Style Weapon” I guaranty it points you in the direction of AR15’s.

[Bill Gates]

You don't need a 30 mag high rate of fire AR15 for home defense or hunting, a pistol or shotty works for home defense and any serious hunter uses a proper rifle, everyone else is just trying to justify their need for an assault weapon to be in their home with all the attachments and bells and whistles.

You don't need a 30 round mag for hunting moose, you'd use a proper rifle like every other sensible hunter.

Bump stock was clearly going to get banned from the offset, it circumvents the reason, you as a civilian, struggle to buy a fully auto version of the same weapon.

[NKVD]

The Trump administration has officially banned Bump stocks

ATF stated that bump stocks are a gun accessory or firearm part and are not subject to federal regulation but Donald Trump called on the Justice department to ban the device anyway.

If you have a bump stock you have 90 days to either destroy it or turn it in to ATF.

Share your thoughts and opinions on it.

What I find interesting is there is Trump supporters on social media now saying "I don't need a bump stock, I don't own a bump stock so it doesn't matter" but the reality is if Obama would have passed this there would be tremendous outrage. This is like saying "I don't need a Ruger, I don't own a Ruger so ban it" "I don't need a trigger upgrade, I don't have a trigger upgrade so ban it"

Trump is more likely to ban guns than any liberal.

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I should be legally allowed to own automatic rifles and anyone who disagrees with this is a communist cuck traitor who is violating my natural god given rights and should be deported.

Those evil gommunist cummin to take mah guns!!!!!

[Leroy Jethro Gibbs]

So finally we are back to square one and you reinforced my theory. You can kill wild animals on your farm with a hunting rife. Why use an AR?

So someone breaks into your house with a weapon and you need to defend yourself, you’re telling me you’d rather clear the house with a long gun and limit your mobility instead of using a handgun? Say the bad guy gets into your personal circle, how can you shoot someone with that bulky AR When they are 1 foot away from you?

I’m currently wearing a glock 17 service pistol on my hip which hasn’t jammed yet after 2000+ rounds.

My .38 on the other hand has.

So then we loop back to my comment. AR's and hunting rifles that take 5.56 can literally fire and function at the same rate. The only difference is the design. Stop saying Assault Style as its a term that defines intent.

Are you saying that a hunting rifle with a 10 round mag can't do as much damage as a AR-15 with the same 10 round mag?

Google “Assault Style Weapon” I guaranty it points you in the direction of AR15’s.

As I said before, stop using Assault Style as that refers to a weapon being used with intent.

[The_Right_Stuff]

Trump is more likely to ban guns than any liberal.

Go to any blue state if you think that is true where its literally illegal to own guns.

Obama literally banned guns.
Clinton literally banned guns and had laws that said a Handgun with a bayonet mount is an assault rifle.
Reagan literally banned automatic guns.
Trump's administration banned Bump Stocks still a violation of 2a but lower than these.


Republicans will ban anything the NRA says is bad
The democrats will ban any gun they can.

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You don't need a 30 mag high rate of fire AR15 for home defense or hunting, a pistol or shotty works for home defense and any serious hunter uses a proper rifle, everyone else is just trying to justify their need for an assault weapon to be in their home with all the attachments and bells and whistles.

You don't need a 30  round mag for hunting moose, you'd use a proper rifle like every other sensible hunter.

Bump stock was clearly going to get banned from the offset, it circumvents the reason, you as a civilian, struggle to buy a fully auto version of the same weapon.

AR15's are semi auto they fire as fast as you pull the trigger there is no such thing as a high rate of fire AR15. You pull trigger once one bullet fires the same speed you pull the trigger.

AR15's are the most popular hunting rifle in states where you can buy one. There is no reason to limit my magazine size other than you think it sounds scary most mass shootings are from handguns.

[Bill Gates]

Go to any blue state if you think that is true where its literally illegal to own guns.

Obama literally banned guns.
Clinton literally banned guns and had laws that said a Handgun with a bayonet mount is an assault rifle.
Reagan literally banned automatic guns.
Trump's administration banned Bump Stocks still a violation of 2a but lower than these.


Republicans will ban anything the NRA says is bad
The democrats will ban any gun they can.

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AR15's are semi auto they fire as fast as you pull the trigger there is no such thing as a high rate of fire AR15. You pull trigger once one bullet fires the same speed you pull the trigger.

AR15's are the most popular hunting rifle in states where you can buy one. There is no reason to limit my magazine size other than you think it sounds scary most mass shootings are from handguns.

Yo my dude, i used fully autos and pistols my entire Army career, i know how they work.

They do have a purpose, war and combat.

[Leroy Jethro Gibbs]

I've decided to not respond to this thread anymore. You guys enjoy your debate.

[CueBasE]

Go to any blue state if you think that is true where its literally illegal to own guns.

Obama literally banned guns.
Clinton literally banned guns and had laws that said a Handgun with a bayonet mount is an assault rifle.
Reagan literally banned automatic guns.
Trump's administration banned Bump Stocks still a violation of 2a but lower than these.


Republicans will ban anything the NRA says is bad
The democrats will ban any gun they can.

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AR15's are semi auto they fire as fast as you pull the trigger there is no such thing as a high rate of fire AR15. You pull trigger once one bullet fires the same speed you pull the trigger.

AR15's are the most popular hunting rifle in states where you can buy one. There is no reason to limit my magazine size other than you think it sounds scary most mass shootings are from handguns.

How is banning bump stocks a 2nd amendment right violation? Where does the constitution say that we the people have the right to bare any and arms?

The constitution was signed in 1787 I believe. Almost Any gun that was around back then would be considered legal today. Since then, we have created guns that are capable of mass destruction. Had these be available back then, I’m sure they would’ve written the constitution differently by not allowing civilians to own military grade weapons.

Obama never banned guns, he wanted stricter gun control meaning better background checks.
Look at how many shootings occurr with legally obtained firearms each year.

[Leroy Jethro Gibbs]

How is banning bump stocks a 2nd amendment right violation? Where does the constitution say that we the people have the right to bare any and arms?

The constitution was signed in 1787 I believe. Almost Any gun that was around back then would be considered legal today. Since then, we have created guns that are capable of mass destruction. Had these be available back then, I’m sure they would’ve written the constitution differently by not allowing civilians to own military grade weapons.

Obama never banned guns, he wanted stricter gun control meaning better background checks.
Look at how many shootings occurr with legally obtained firearms each year.

The 2nd amendment was created to keep the people just as armed as the military that protects it.