It seems that the risks of Myocarditis were not made publicly known as soon as possible even though it was still known fairly early on.
"U.S. health officials knew about the risks of myocarditis from COVID-19 vaccines but downplayed the concern and delayed informing the public about the risks of taking the jab — that is according to a new Senate report released by Sen. Ron Johnson Wednesday. "
"The interim report, spanning 55 pages, obtained and reviewed by Fox News Digital, revealed that Biden administration officials "withheld crucial health information from the Subcommittee and the public."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-offi...hot-report
As someone who took the original 2 doses of Pfizer I was already well aware of the Myocarditis risks prior to taking it and spoke to multiple doctors prior, but the people before me who didn't know should have known of the risk.
Covering up what could be a potentially fatal risk despite being rare is unacceptable and those who took the vaccine and did get myocarditis before the risk was made publicly known absolutely deserve compensation. This is a terrible failure of the previous administration.
While I agree the topic should have been handled more openly, we are still talking about less than 1 case per million doses administered.
(May 22, 2025 01:07 PM)Dennis Wrote: While I agree the topic should have been handled more openly, we are still talking about less than 1 case per million doses administered.
Yes it is very rare, but it is not right that they did not disclose it when they knew.
I been on this forum a big supporter of the Covid vaccine, got into many arguments over it. Still am a supporter of this vaccine because I believe it saved countless of lives.
But this is a failure of the previous administration, this just gives conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers more ground to run on. Instead of being upfront about it and making it known which it was known when I got the vaccine and it allowed me to make an informed decision.
It is important for people to discuss risks vs benefits with their doctor, these people prior to this being disclosed did not have that opportunity.
Feels like your excusing things a bit.
Because realistically for most demographics the risk of death from Covid 19 were far less than the risk of death from the Covid shot. If you need me to start calculating that for you I will. Had Covid, was a flu for a few days, no big deal, no lasting effects. That's the experience most people had gaining natural immunity. Meanwhile they lied to you about the clot shot and you just seem to brush it off. They literally killed tens of thousands of people and injured them for a narrative. And do you even ask why? Because I can tell you now it wasn't a profit thing. That's always in play but Covid was about stopping Trump and instilling the New World Order.
Just unbelievable how asleep some people are to this fact. It's FUCKING FACT. Unless you're gonna tell me all their lies were just "mistakes" and "they meant well". Your own post says otherwise that Biden administration HID THE FACTS. That's usually called LYING.
Let me repeat your post...
"withheld crucial health information from the Subcommittee and the public."
How do you not see it? How do you not remember the amount of lies told to the public? And when you get to the root of it, it was to defeat Trump. To have Mail-in Ballots. To scare people into believing Trump was killing people. They (WHO, CDC, Fauci) lied to Trump all day too. He's not a medical expert and so when he was surrounded by these advisors who he was told were the best in the world, he just followed their advice for the most part. Oh they a weakness and exploited it. And they timed it perfectly too.
Pretty crazy you make this thread and say, "As someone who took the original 2 doses of Pfizer I was already well aware of the Myocarditis risks prior to taking it and spoke to multiple doctors prior".
I mean really bro? You "knew the risk". That's bullshit. Because the math don't work. You're saying you knew that some unknown fucking vaccine that ended up being ineffective and having literal death as a side-effect you were willing to take over possibly having a .02% chance of dying from Covid?
Plug in your age into AI and see what it says about your chances of Covid death. I was about 50 then and I was 99.6% survival rate.
(May 22, 2025 02:28 PM)Omniscient Wrote: Feels like your excusing things a bit.
Because realistically for most demographics the risk of death from Covid 19 were far less than the risk of death from the Covid shot. If you need me to start calculating that for you I will. Had Covid, was a flu for a few days, no big deal, no lasting effects. That's the experience most people had gaining natural immunity. Meanwhile they lied to you about the clot shot and you just seem to brush it off. They literally killed tens of thousands of people and injured them for a narrative. And do you even ask why? Because I can tell you now it wasn't a profit thing. That's always in play but Covid was about stopping Trump and instilling the New World Order.
Just unbelievable how asleep some people are to this fact. It's FUCKING FACT. Unless you're gonna tell me all their lies were just "mistakes" and "they meant well". Your own post says otherwise that Biden administration HID THE FACTS. That's usually called LYING.
Let me repeat your post...
"withheld crucial health information from the Subcommittee and the public."
How do you not see it? How do you not remember the amount of lies told to the public? And when you get to the root of it, it was to defeat Trump. To have Mail-in Ballots. To scare people into believing Trump was killing people. They (WHO, CDC, Fauci) lied to Trump all day too. He's not a medical expert and so when he was surrounded by these advisors who he was told were the best in the world, he just followed their advice for the most part. Oh they a weakness and exploited it. And they timed it perfectly too.
Pretty crazy you make this thread and say, "As someone who took the original 2 doses of Pfizer I was already well aware of the Myocarditis risks prior to taking it and spoke to multiple doctors prior".
I mean really bro? You "knew the risk". That's bullshit. Because the math don't work. You're saying you knew that some unknown fucking vaccine that ended up being ineffective and having literal death as a side-effect you were willing to take over possibly having a .02% chance of dying from Covid?
Plug in your age into AI and see what it says about your chances of Covid death. I was about 50 then and I was 99.6% survival rate.
When it comes to me I am actually considered "high risk" that is one of the reasons I took the vaccine, myocarditis was known at the time Pfizer was FDA Approved (Not EUA) which is when I took the vaccine around a month or so after I will have to grab my vaccine card to find the exact date.
I brought the myocarditis concerns up to my primary care doctor and a few other doctors prior to taking the vaccine.
I caught Covid in late 2023, no boosters, the vaccine I had was not designed for the variant circulating at the time and the vaccine wayned off and it fucked me up bad, my blood oxygen level was dropping, I was spiking a fever, major coughing spells, wheezing and the pain in my stomach and ribs from all of the coughing was pretty brutal.
I survived that obviously but that was a weaker variant, but I also caught Covid earlier on when the vaccine was effective against the variant at the time and I had and it was nowhere near as bad so that leaves me to believe the vaccine worked.
To answer your question for me also entering some of my health issues ChatGPT says between 0.4 - 1.5% of dying.
(May 22, 2025 09:56 AM)Prepper Wrote: It seems that the risks of Myocarditis were not made publicly known as soon as possible even though it was still known fairly early on.
"U.S. health officials knew about the risks of myocarditis from COVID-19 vaccines but downplayed the concern and delayed informing the public about the risks of taking the jab — that is according to a new Senate report released by Sen. Ron Johnson Wednesday. "
"The interim report, spanning 55 pages, obtained and reviewed by Fox News Digital, revealed that Biden administration officials "withheld crucial health information from the Subcommittee and the public."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-offi...hot-report
As someone who took the original 2 doses of Pfizer I was already well aware of the Myocarditis risks prior to taking it and spoke to multiple doctors prior, but the people before me who didn't know should have known of the risk.
Covering up what could be a potentially fatal risk despite being rare is unacceptable and those who took the vaccine and did get myocarditis before the risk was made publicly known absolutely deserve compensation. This is a terrible failure of the previous administration.
The greatest danger was for young boys and men. For everyone else it was extremely unlikely but for this group it was higher although not a major likelihood.
(May 22, 2025 10:45 PM)The Pact Wrote: The greatest danger was for young boys and men. For everyone else it was extremely unlikely but for this group it was higher although not a major likelihood.
My opinion is they knew the risk and delayed it.
While that delay doesn't personally come into play for me because the risk was already public for me and I spoke to multiple doctors about it that does not change the fact that they knew of the risk and didn't make it public immediately allowing people to make an informed decision.
I believe the vaccine to be safe and effective especially for those who are high risk.
But I would be lying if I didn't say this situation wont make me think twice and less likely to take a vaccine in the future because going forward how can I be so sure they are not withholding worse information, I am sure there is many more people who took the vaccine just like me who think this now.
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