Strictly for ebooks! Not for any product sold in the Marketplace!
Strictly for ebooks! Not for any product sold in the Marketplace!
Strictly for ebooks! Not for any product sold in the Marketplace!
Strictly for ebooks! Not for any product sold in the Marketplace!
(Aug 25, 2011 06:28 PM)Itachi Uchiha Wrote: Reviewers job aren't to test the ebooks.
Just to review the possibility of it working.
This post made me think more clearly about this problem. Okay, I have bought many, many ebooks and I can tell you that 9/10 time, the ebook is not up to standards as what the official reviewer has made in his review. This leads to sort of "false" reviews.
So how about dissolving the entire Reviewers group, and start a new group named something such as "Testers". These are people that actually test the ebook and gives their opinion on the methods included within.
Why? Because with the current system, the official Reviewers only describe the possibilities of the ebook actually working. They don't test it themselves so how can they know if the ebook works or not? If there was a "Testers" group, the review of ebooks would be much more accurate.
I understand testing could take some time, and that's why I recommend sending your ebook to testers before you put your sales thread up. This would also save a lot of non-working/stolen/saturated ebooks from being sold here.
We don't need to replace it.
How about dissolve it entirely?
Yeah seriously.
Them folks have to just simply get out of here.
There's always been false reviews and people who've applied for Reviewers simply social engineered their way in to simply become bad reviewers.
Yea useless group most of them write good reviews all the time anyways.
Ya almost nobody writes a bad review because they have no idea about what the ebook is even talking about, so just assume it will work
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They're probably scared of getting -rep if they give bad reviews.
I kind of agree with you.
Yes stuff like grammar is needed for something to be a good book but a book with good grammar and a method which does not work is useless.
I don't like that it requires you to be ub3r to join either.
(Aug 25, 2011 07:49 PM)Monstah Wrote: Ya almost nobody writes a bad review because they have no idea about what the ebook is even talking about, so just assume it will work
THIS is why I wanted to become a Reviewer. but I was denied. Oh well. But anyways, you're right. I have never once seen a bad review. I have bought many, upon many bad ebooks but I've never seen an actual bad review.
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I agree too, it's kind of pointless.
Or expand it to the whole marketplace.
(Aug 25, 2011 07:53 PM)Baked Wrote: I agree too, it's kind of pointless.
Or expand it to the whole marketplace.
Yea. It'd be great to have the reviewers actually review items sold like crypters, hosting services.
Okay, so.. get rid of Reviewers for ebooks, and add testers for everything. I kinda like it.
I don't think removing the reviewers group is a good idea, although I do understand your concerns and I agree with a lot of them. Think about it, having these "official" reviews are better than nothing. Also, I don't think this "testers" thing is a good idea. It seems like way too much work for the group and with the amount of eBook Sales Threads coming in it seems virtually impossible. Nice idea though.
I think what we should be doing rather than skipping straight to the idea of disbanding the Reviewers entirely is brainstorming about different ways we can improve the accuracy and quality of the reviews being distributed. Like I said, these "official" reviews may not always be the most accurate, but IMO it's better to have them than not to have them at all.
Well I do not think that we should have a group that reviews/tests everything in the market, because then everyone would want to be in the reviewers for the free stuff.
1. Testers will never happen. Suggested and denied a few times already.
2. The only real problem with the Reviewers is that members are never removed for writing inaccurate/'lazy' reviews. If the leaders checked them once in a while this wouldn't be a problem. Reviewers would put more effort into their reviews.
(Aug 25, 2011 07:59 PM)Validity Wrote: I don't think removing the reviewers group is a good idea, although I do understand your concerns and I agree with a lot of them. Think about it, having these "official" reviews are better than nothing. Also, I don't think this "testers" thing is a good idea. It seems like way too much work for the group and with the amount of eBook Sales Threads coming in it seems virtually impossible. Nice idea though.
I think what we should be doing rather than skipping straight to the idea of disbanding the Reviewers entirely is brainstorming about different ways we can improve the accuracy and quality of the reviews being distributed. Like I said, these "official" reviews may not always be the most accurate, but IMO it's better to have them than not to have them at all.
I don't think the Testers is too bad of an idea. You said it would be too much work, but I disagree. That's why the Testers would have to be users who are dedicated to HF and willing to spend a good chunk of their time actually doing their job (testing products sold on HF). These people would volunteer themselves, so even if it is a lot of work, I don't think it's a problem as these people chose to do the job.
I just think there's no way to make the official reviews more accurate, other than actually testing the ebook yourself. Which is where this new group would come into play. I see what you're getting at though. Maybe you're right, maybe it would be too much work. Writing a review takes a short time to complete, but reviewing it would take a few days. And you would need really dedicated users if they even wanted to try testing more than 1 ebook at once. They may have their hands full. So you're right.
(Aug 25, 2011 08:03 PM)Bigandrewgold Wrote: Well I do not think that we should have a group that reviews/tests everything in the market, because then everyone would want to be in the reviewers for the free stuff.
You are implying that this isn't already the case with the Reviewers group?
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