Jul 24, 2016 07:30 AM
(This post was last modified: Jul 24, 2016 07:35 AM by V For Vendetta..)
Link to user in question:
https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...id=1693080
I sold Havockas my method for $125 Skrill:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5323018
Proof that I'm talking to him via skype:
![[Image: ZnduRnc.png]](https://i.imgur.com/ZnduRnc.png)
![[Image: I7uQQ0b.png]](https://i.imgur.com/I7uQQ0b.png)
Basically, user does not know how to follow instructions in the e-book to get the method working for him. Havockas has berated me by calling me a liar which affected my psychological well-being and state of mind, but I ignored it. I clearly state on my thread:
Berating me leads to the loss of support and/or a refund at my discretion.
Proof he berated me:
![[Image: auE34mZ.png]](https://i.imgur.com/auE34mZ.png)
The text crossed out in red is to protect the integrity of my method.
I ignored it, but shit hit the fan today when he said he was going to leak my e-book.
![[Image: 5NwSWvh.png]](https://i.imgur.com/5NwSWvh.png)
I was willing to refund him if he showed me recorded calls, chat transcripts etc, as that is "sufficient proof". However, after threatening to leak my e-book, I remove his right to support and a refund.
Regards,
V For Vendetta.
Seems like a valid case. Good luck resolving this.
I'm backing you on this one. Normally I don't really do this for eBook sellers, but you are entirely in the right here. He knew what he'd be getting when he bought an eBook from your thread (where proof was posted) and there's no way that the method wouldn't work unless he wasn't trying.
Good luck getting this resolved.
I don't middleman any deals on- or off-site. Please don't message me requesting my past services and certainly don't fall for anybody who claims to be me.
Are you fucking retarded??
Berating me leads to the loss of support and/or a refund at my discretion.
Proof he berated me:
Spoiler (Click to Hide)
"why the fuck u lyin"
You're a fucking loser man
(Jul 24, 2016 07:35 AM)0x000R Wrote: Are you fucking retarded??
Berating me leads to the loss of support and/or a refund at my discretion.
Proof he berated me:
Spoiler (Click to Hide)
"why the fuck u lyin"
You're a fucking loser man
According to the definition, he berated me.
You must be a bitch, seriously. If you seriously get offended because of what someone says a and make a bullshit excuse out of it to keep their money, you don't deserve shit.
(Jul 24, 2016 07:35 AM)0x000R Wrote: Are you fucking retarded??
Berating me leads to the loss of support and/or a refund at my discretion.
Proof he berated me:
Spoiler (Click to Hide)
"why the fuck u lyin"
You're a fucking loser man
That piece of proof goes hand in hand with the picture that follows. You can clearly see that Havockas is angrily scolding Vendetta.
I don't middleman any deals on- or off-site. Please don't message me requesting my past services and certainly don't fall for anybody who claims to be me.
DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS MEMBER
I have the same thought as Minimalist on this. I never back e-book sellers considering they do everything to void the refund guarantee but this is a case where you are right.
Best of luck resolving this man.
(Jul 24, 2016 07:39 AM)V For Vendetta. Wrote: ![[Image: 5t94XoG.png]](https://i.imgur.com/5t94XoG.png)
According to the definition, he berated me.
Sorry, but if you call that berating. then you should build up some shield or something because you are gonna have a hard time in life.
Maybe your ebook was plain shit. Can't trust vouches nowadays.
Gotta have 2 sides of the story here
Jul 24, 2016 07:41 AM
(This post was last modified: Jul 24, 2016 07:42 AM by V For Vendetta..)
(Jul 24, 2016 07:39 AM)0x000R Wrote: You must be a bitch, seriously. If you seriously get offended because of what someone says a and make a bullshit excuse out of it to keep their money, you don't deserve shit.
I didn't care. I ignored it. I was willing to refund him if he showed me sufficient proof, which he has failed to do so.
(Jul 24, 2016 07:41 AM)Tommy Chong- Wrote: Sorry, but if you call that berating. then you should build up some shield or something because you are gonna have a hard time in life.
Maybe your ebook was plain shit. Can't trust vouches nowadays.
Gotta have 2 sides of the story here
Users have actually earned with this method.
Jul 24, 2016 07:42 AM
(This post was last modified: Jul 24, 2016 07:42 AM by Tommy Chong-.)
(Jul 24, 2016 07:41 AM)V For Vendetta. Wrote: I didn't care. I ignored it. I was willing to refund him if he showed me sufficient proof, which he has failed to do so.
Users have actually earned with this method.
As i said, vouches aren't trusted anymore nowadays. especially when it comes to ebooks and high repped members
@Havockas
Posting rude comments will not help your case. If you have a legitimate case, I suggest you voice it in a calm mature and manner.
I don't know you, V For Vendetta.
Please take this advice for what it is, exactly that...Advice.
I don't know what you do outside of the forums, nor does it matter but as a whole this is the issue with forum sellers pushing eBooks and acting like "wanna be business men".
The amount in question is $125.
Unless your methods aren't earning you what you say they are / are possible of, why would you not just refund him the $125 take the loss, delete him and move on?
Maybe this comes with doing business for a while, or experience but an unhappy / angry customer (Be it online, in person whatever) is not one that you want around.
The general rule is refund them and delete / forget it ever happened.
Since the admins don't get involved in deal disputes this is what is going to happen.
He is going to keep harassing you however he can, he may leak your method on this forum or others.
You're going to get a headache from it and be annoyed.
It's $125. You are actively selling a method that you advertise as bringing in $1000/week.
Next thing that will happen, any one who sees this thread and probably my post will now think "He can't refund $125?"
It's all well and good standing by your terms and conditions if this was a brick and mortar business and you was dealing with educated, rational people but on a forum like this? It's usually one or the other.
You'll respond to this with "I said I'd refund him but he got rude and abusive so..."
You'll make triple this on the sale of the last copy of your eBook so why lose sleep and get annoyed about all this?
(Jul 24, 2016 08:07 AM)あれくさんだあ きし Wrote: I don't know you, V For Vendetta.
Please take this advice for what it is, exactly that...Advice.
I don't know what you do outside of the forums, nor does it matter but as a whole this is the issue with forum sellers pushing eBooks and acting like "wanna be business men".
The amount in question is $125.
Unless your methods aren't earning you what you say they are / are possible of, why would you not just refund him the $125 take the loss, delete him and move on?
Maybe this comes with doing business for a while, or experience but an unhappy / angry customer (Be it online, in person whatever) is not one that you want around.
The general rule is refund them and delete / forget it ever happened.
Since the admins don't get involved in deal disputes this is what is going to happen.
He is going to keep harassing you however he can, he may leak your method on this forum or others.
You're going to get a headache from it and be annoyed.
It's $125. You are actively selling a method that you advertise as bringing in $1000/week.
Next thing that will happen, any one who sees this thread and probably my post will now think "He can't refund $125?"
It's all well and good standing by your terms and conditions if this was a brick and mortar business and you was dealing with educated, rational people but on a forum like this? It's usually one or the other.
You'll respond to this with "I said I'd refund him but he got rude and abusive so..."
You'll make triple this on the sale of the last copy of your eBook so why lose sleep and get annoyed about all this? I completely understand. I was more than happy to refund him if he shows me proof, which he has not done so. Any brick or mortar company also needs proof, which Havockas has failed to provide.
Good luck with your "case" V, on your side
~Ang3lus
reflect and move forward. just because the past exists for you to see does not mean that is who you must be now
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