Jun 7, 2019 06:49 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 7, 2019 07:23 AM by thedogcampaign.)
Firstly, I intended to name the title " Scammed by M L T" but today, he contacted me so I think it is fair enough to rename the title " Still not getting refund 450$ from Paypal after 10 days"
His Profile:
https://hackforums.net/marketcp.php?acti...id=3784247
His Service:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5971878
The contract:
https://hackforums.net/contracts.php?act...&cid=59282
After few days, he doesn't spend any hour to teach me. So, I disputed the contract here (
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5973919
)
Then at 27 May, he contacted me and told me that he refunded it and I need to close the dispute. Paypal show the refund is pending until 5 June.
At 4 June, Paypal refused the refund
If he has positive balance in Paypal, it should be refunded immediately like the 600$ refund payment I sent before
He told me that he have 7000$ in the bank linked to his paypal, so why the refund was declined ?
These are some evidences that shows how we make conversation. I will give full conversation later
He said I can commit at latest 1 hour per day
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I sent him 600$ but somehow he can't access the money. So we try with friend and family option. We agree the refund and send payment again as friend and family. I got 600$ refund immediately (no pending)
At this time, i pay him 450$ first to protect myself
I don't need private exploit but he give me anyway.
I marked the deal dispute resolved. That is my fault and big mistake when the refund wasn't cleared.
I don't need the private exploit but he always say that is worth more than the 450$ I sent him. The exploit is useless with me. With beginner like me, please tell me what the hell I can do with that exploit ?
He told me that I send him the funds from a stolen Paypal account or stolen credit card but I don't. This is my account and fund from my balance. Somebody has reputation here please teamview my Paypal account to show the true.
So, what I can do now is waiting him call Paypal support to know what is going on. So, Paypal is scamming me 450$?
I called Paypal multiple time but they always said the refund wasn't completed because they can't take money from his bank which links to Paypal account
I will post my paypal activity and full conversation video later after editing to hide some personal information
Thank you @Bill Gates for helping editing video and always support me :) :)
Sorry for ya loss, let's see how this ends.
I will spread some truth about MLT soon. I'll end him and what he's doing.
The problem with stolen paypal was lame excuses in my opinion.
I don't know why did he said that, paypal is known for those holds and it has nothing to do if they money goes from bad nor good sources.
If MLT account was few days inactive or had little payment flow the last few days it's normal this happens.
Hope you'll get this resolved asap, good luck.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5909182
Not the first time the kid scammed, no idea why anyone would still trust him.
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(Jun 7, 2019 06:52 AM)ImperialCheats Wrote: Sorry for ya loss, let's see how this ends.
I will spread some truth about MLT soon. I'll end him and what he's doing. Thank you, RogueCheats :)
(Jun 7, 2019 06:53 AM)ririki Wrote: The problem with stolen paypal was lame excuses in my opinion.
I don't know why did he said that, paypal is known for those holds and it has nothing to do if they money goes from bad nor good sources.
If MLT account was few days inactive or had little payment flow the last few days it's normal this happens.
Hope you'll get this resolved asap, good luck. Thank you for understanding, ririki :)
So many deal disputes and threads against this fucker, why isn't he banned yet jeez
DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS MEMBER
Jun 7, 2019 07:13 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 7, 2019 07:23 AM by M L T.)
(Jun 7, 2019 07:02 AM)Wick. Wrote: So many deal disputes and threads against this fucker, why isn't he banned yet jeez
Um, actually, there's 2 open deal disputes against me. The first being Thermal (whom I've came to an agreement with), the second is with someone who I was meant to provide a copy of an exploit to and did so late (but it has now been provided to him)
Why should I be banned exactly? I refunded this user (as requested) within 48 hours of him accepting a contract to pay me $600 for a service (he paid only $450... I still refunded him under 24 hours later anyway).
I've already responded to this with all the proof anyone needs... but evidently many users here lack even the most basic reaing comprehension skills.
This is an issue with paypal, not a scam attempt from me. I've been having issues with my account from the very first moment this user sent me funds (hence me questioning where exactly his funds came from)
If anything, it's me who's in a position to file a dispute here. He paid me $450 for a contract where he agreed to pay $600... then asked for the $450 refunded (so I obliged, giving him ANOTHER refund), now he's trying to pay me in three installments of $150...
(Jun 7, 2019 06:53 AM)ririki Wrote: The problem with stolen paypal was lame excuses in my opinion.
I don't know why did he said that, paypal is known for those holds and it has nothing to do if they money goes from bad nor good sources.
If MLT account was few days inactive or had little payment flow the last few days it's normal this happens.
Hope you'll get this resolved asap, good luck.
In the 12 years of using PayPal, this has never happened to me until the very moment this user sent me funds, so of course I'm going to question the source of his funds. Occam's razor (or for the dumber users here -- typical common sense).
Also @ OP's claims "I don't need the private exploit" let me just point out to anyone reading this thread that the private exploit + lessons WAS WHAT HE PAID FOR. It's literally stated in the contract. The deal was supposed to be 50hrs + private exploit for $600... That's exactly what he agreed to in the contract.
I love watching all these people calling me a scammer without the slightest shred of evidence I'm doing anything of the sort. Also worth pointing out that this user filed a deal dispute against me within not even 48 hours of initially accepting the contract (after being given the exploit, prior to us coming up with a solid lesson schedule)
(Jun 7, 2019 06:52 AM)ImperialCheats Wrote: Sorry for ya loss, let's see how this ends.
I will spread some truth about MLT soon. I'll end him and what he's doing.
Is that meant to be a threat or something? Honestly, I'd love to see you try...
Evidently you're a sheep who blindly believes anything they read on the internet. Try actually looking at both sides of the story and using your brain for once in your life, c'mon, I know you can do it!
(Jun 7, 2019 07:13 AM)M L T Wrote: Um, actually, there's 2 open deal disputes against me. The first being Thermal (whom I've came to an agreement with), the second is with someone who I was meant to provide a copy of an exploit to and did so late (but it has now been provided to him)
Why should I be banned exactly? I refunded this user (as requested) within 48 hours of him accepting a contract to pay me $600 for a service (he paid only $450... I still refunded him under 24 hours later anyway).
I've already responded to this with all the proof anyone needs... but evidently many users here lack even the most basic reaing comprehension skills.
This is an issue with paypal, not a scam attempt from me. I've been having issues with my account from the very first moment this user sent me funds (hence me questioning where exactly his funds came from)
If anything, it's me who's in a position to file a dispute here. He paid me $450 for a contract where he agreed to pay $600... then asked for the $450 refunded (so I obliged, giving him ANOTHER refund), now he's trying to pay me in three installments of $150...
In the 12 years of using PayPal, this has never happened to me until the very moment this user sent me funds, so of course I'm going to question the source of his funds. Occam's razor (or for the dumber users here -- typical common sense). just 1 question. Why don't you call Paypal to figure out what is happening ?
DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS MEMBER
(Jun 7, 2019 07:19 AM)thedogcampaign Wrote: just 1 question. Why don't you call Paypal to figure out what is happening ?
I'm going to.
One question for you though, I refunded you out of good faith -- I'm not obliged to refund you at all... you asked for a refund less than 48 hours after both of us accepted the contract terms which you clearly read. I don't have ANY refunds policy in regards to that... yet I've still refunded you (and in doing so you've ended up with a FREE copy of one of my private exploits). I'm well within my rights to tell you "no refunds" and letting you know that you can just take or leave the lessons, since YOU accepted the contract then changed your mind under 48 hours later and demanded a refuned... yet still I obliged, attempting to refund you, and what have you done since? Repeatedly attempt to tarnish my reputation by making out like I'm scamming you when I'm doing nothing of the sort.
Jun 7, 2019 07:28 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 7, 2019 07:30 AM by ImperialCheats.)
(Jun 7, 2019 07:13 AM)M L T Wrote: Is that meant to be a threat or something? Honestly, I'd love to see you try...
Evidently you're a sheep who blindly believes anything they read on the internet. Try actually looking at both sides of the story and using your brain for once in your life, c'mon, I know you can do it!
Awww, cute MLT. Maybe do a guess on who I am?
I should've listened to Atmos, but meh. I fell for the traps again. How stupid right?
How would you feel if I fucked up your whole little game in just a couple of minutes, a couple images & have some others come over here to spit over your whole reputation.
I'm done with what you're doing here, blatanly scamming people. Leaving them without money.
You know most of these kids/guys take this as an investment to change their hustle? God you should be embarrassed.
Mouth shut till you fix all of these things. 😊 🤐
EDIT:
Private exploit? Don't think so. Not anymore at least.
DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS MEMBER
(Jun 7, 2019 07:28 AM)ImperialCheats Wrote: I'm done with what you're doing here, blatanly scamming people. Leaving them without money.
You know most of these kids/guys take this as an investment to change their hustle? God you should be embarrassed.
nailed it.
DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS MEMBER
Jun 7, 2019 07:35 AM
(This post was last modified: Jun 7, 2019 07:38 AM by M L T.)
(Jun 7, 2019 07:28 AM)ImperialCheats Wrote: Awww, cute MLT. Maybe do a guess on who I am?
I should've listened to Atmos, but meh. I fell for the traps again. How stupid right?
How would you feel if I fucked up your whole little game in just a couple of minutes, a couple images & have some others come over here to spit over your whole reputation.
I'm done with what you're doing here, blatanly scamming people. Leaving them without money.
You know most of these kids/guys take this as an investment to change their hustle? God you should be embarrassed.
Mouth shut till you fix all of these things. 😊 🤐
EDIT:
Private exploit? Don't think so. Not anymore at least.
Lmfao. Please stahp intimidating me with those rude chats of yours! Give me the sligtest shred of evidence that I'm scamming anyone? In fact, I've refunded three other people (besides this user) yesterday and none of them have had any issues wih their refunds...
and oh noez PLEASE don't leak one of my countless 0days what would I ever do in such a case?! It's not like I couldn't just go find more 0day than you've had wanks you fuckin reject l0l
I couldn't give a shit who you are but the fact you think listening to Atmos (or any other spergs from those IRC networks) is a good idea in ANY instance, tells me that you're nothing other than a straight up moron.
Also I assume by "fix all these things" you mean ensure that this user is refunded? Because that's the ONLY thing I can think of considering I've already refunded/came to arrangements with everyone else.. Refunded this guy too. The money is gone from my account, I'm not sending it twice.
(Jun 7, 2019 07:13 AM)M L T Wrote: In the 12 years of using PayPal, this has never happened to me until the very moment this user sent me funds, so of course I'm going to question the source of his funds. Occam's razor (or for the dumber users here -- typical common sense).
Also @ OP's claims "I don't need the private exploit" let me just point out to anyone reading this thread that the private exploit + lessons WAS WHAT HE PAID FOR. It's literally stated in the contract. The deal was supposed to be 50hrs + private exploit for $600... That's exactly what he agreed to in the contract.
I love watching all these people calling me a scammer without the slightest shred of evidence I'm doing anything of the sort. Also worth pointing out that this user filed a deal dispute against me within not even 48 hours of initially accepting the contract (after being given the exploit, prior to us coming up with a solid lesson schedule)
This happens quiet a lot unless you are a known company or have your own paypal manager from paypal.
I never said anything regarding the contract terms I was just poiting out the paypal issue.
Also keep in mind I am not calling you scammer, never did. I don't know the backstory behind you and OP but as I said my post was only and about the paypal issue.
DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS MEMBER
Please keep this on topic and without accusations, this thread is for evidence only, and we do NOT want it closed or give staff a reason to close it, this isn't for opinions, it is for proof, and i will provide videos with blurred out private information for people to view, the hard original copies can be viewed out of public for trusted members to confirm they are original and only have edited out doxed information.
(Jun 7, 2019 07:38 AM)Bill Gates Wrote: Please keep this on topic and without accusations, this thread is for evidence only, and we do NOT want it closed or give staff a reason to close it, this isn't for opinions, it is for proof, and i will provide videos with blurred out private information for people to view, the hard original copies can be viewed out of public for trusted members to confirm they are original and only have edited out doxed information.
AFAIK this is not official deal dispute but Marketplace Discussions.
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