[Burns]

Contract Link: https://hackforums.net/contracts.php?act...cid=249372
Disputed Member: https://hackforums.net/member.php?action...uid=627996

This pump & dump BOT is highly unstable and will make you lose all your money.

I bought this bot for $300.
After reading all the instructions that came along with the bot, and all the messages on the Discord chat explaning how the bot works, I decided to give it a try on a pump & dump that the bot developers recommended.

My first pump & dump with this bot went horribly wrong.
After submiting the coin's name, the bot gave multiple errors on the console, and it ended up buying the coin that it was supposed to WITHOUT setting any Take Profit or Stop Loss orders. If you know how pump & dumps work, having a Take Profit & Stop Loss order is extremely important due to the coin price volatility.
This bot has the ability to set a TP or SL in the settings, but for some reason it didn't work. What ended up happening was that the bot bought the coin without warning me, and it didn't even set up a TP or SL.
Due to the bot error message on the console, I thought that the buy order didn't go through, which made me ride the coin down for 7 minutes long until I found out that the bot had actually bought the coin, but didn't set any TP or SL, and I ended up losing $350.



The seller blames me for submiting the coin name multiple times on the console, but with a error message like this, the developer should have coded the bot in a way to avoid such errors from happening. When I saw the error messages on the console, I assumed the bot didn't work. But it ended up buying the coin without any warning, and without any TP or SL.


I do not want to keep using an unstable bot like this, there is no guarantees that something like this won't happen again in the future.
There are multiple members that also bought this bot, that have suffered the same problem and lost thousands of dollars.
The members that were lucky enough not to have this issue, are also losing money because this bot is highly unreliable and everyone is complaining about it.

I have asked the seller for a refund, but he keeps making excuses after excuses. He refuses to provide a refund even though I lost $350 due to his bot fault.
Do yourself a favor and don't waste your money on this bot.


UPDATE: Since opening this deal dispute I have been KICKED from the bot Discord group and I will NOT have access anymore to any of the bot future updates, even tho I paid more than the original full price of the bot, and the seller is refusing to refund me.

[Blogger]

Sounds like a really shitty bot. It also sounds like he jumped on the bandwagon way too prematurely and quickly coded this bot with the bare essentials just to be one of the first of its kind in the HF marketplace. Sorry for your loss, OP.

[Burns]

Sounds like a really shitty bot. It also sounds like he jumped on the bandwagon way too prematurely and quickly coded this bot with the bare essentials just to be one of the first of its kind in the HF marketplace. Sorry for your loss, OP.

Exactly, and even without taking into consideration this bug that happened (a bug that costed me $350 and thousands of dollars to other members), the bot isn't as fast and reliable as the seller states it is.

Everyone is complaining about the bot in the Discord group, and 90% of members are losing money. Horrible bot. The point of a bot is to make you money, and not make you lose money even faster.

I'm just waiting to see what other excuses the seller will come up with to justify this.

[NZT]

Before sale I made it abudantly clear that this is merely a bot to allow you to execute quickly in crypto P&Ds, I cannot guarantee you have success in P&Ds themselves as ultimately this is out of my hands -- this is down to the admins of the actual P&D groups and the extent to which they pre-pump the coin.

Case in point, last night's BPS pump which caused you to lose money (and myself for that matter!) caused nearly everyone in the group to lose money. This is not because of the bot, this is because of the pre-pump. Somehow everyone seemed to understand this bar you?

Screenshot of loads of other members understanding BPS was at fault but the bot working perfectly:

In regards to this user's claimed error, SUCH a big point is made in all our documentation to test the bot before a pump, as this will reveal any problems in the user's configurable settings.

This user clearly failed to test his settings ahead of time, otherwise he would've seen this error & had the chance to fix it.

The error he got is called a PRICE_RELATIONSHIP error. This is when the maths behind your LimitPrice and StopLoss is the wrong way round. i.e. you are trying to trigger a stop loss order at a price that is lower then stop loss itself.
You can read all about this at the following two links:
https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/...-oco-order
https://github.com/binance/binance-spot-.../errors.md

[Burns]

Before sale I made it abudantly clear that this is merely a bot to allow you to execute quickly in crypto P&Ds, I cannot guarantee you have success in P&Ds themselves as ultimately this is out of my hands -- this is down to the admins of the actual P&D groups and the extent to which they pre-pump the coin.

Case in point, last night's BPS pump which caused you to lose money (and myself for that matter!) caused nearly everyone in the group to lose money. This is not because of the bot, this is because of the pre-pump. Somehow everyone seemed to understand this bar you?

Screenshot of loads of other members understanding BPS was at fault but the bot working perfectly:

In regards to this user's claimederror_, SUCH a big point is made in all our documentation to test the bot before a pump, as this will reveal any problems in the user's configurable settings.

This user clearly failed to test his settings ahead of time, otherwise he would've seen this _error & had the chance to fix it.

Theerror he got is called a PRICE_RELATIONSHIPerror_. This is when the maths behind your LimitPrice and StopLoss is the wrong way round. i.e. you are trying to trigger a stop loss order at a price that is lower then stop loss itself.
You can read all about this at the following two links:
https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/...-oco-order
https://github.com/binance/binance-spot-.../errors.md

This is bs and you know it.

1. Since opening this deal dispute I have been KICKED from the discord group, and I will NOT have access to the bot updates anymore even though I paid more than the original full price for the bot, and the seller refuses to refund me. So be careful when dealing with him, because if you complain, you will be KICKED, censored and he will say you are just "barking".

2. Again, you either don't read my messages, or play dumb. BPS pump was NOT when I got that error and the bot made me lose $350. You posting here those screenshots to make people think that I lost money because of the BPS failed pump. That is NOT the truth. The bot failed 3 days ago on a completely different pump. Stop trying to manipulate the story.
But if you want to talk about BPS pump, even tho it's completely UNRELATED to this story, fine. BPS pump was so terrible that everyone lost their money in the bot Discord group. Even tho the seller kept "Promising" that that was going to be the "BIG" pump and everyone could expect AT LEAST 150% - 200% profits. I ended up losing over $1000, along with other members who lost THOUSANDS of dollars. Just imagine paying $300 for a bot, to lose even more money than you would by yourself.

3. That error on the console on the first Pump has NOTHING to do with my fault and me typing the wrong settings, and the seller knows that very well. I tested the bot settings multiple times before the pump, and the bot was working fine. The reason why that error happened, was because the price was moving so fast UP and DOWN, that the bot could NOT place a buy order with a TP and SL like it was programmed to. For this same reason, it gave the "OCO error" that we see in the first message. But because the seller's bot is so TERRIBLY coded, if you input another coins name after an "OCO error", the bot will completely bug out and do what it did. It bought the coin that it was supposed to without even warning me and WITHOUT setting any TakeProfit or StopLoss orders.

4.

In regards to this user's claimed _error_, SUCH a big point is made in all our documentation to test the bot before a pump, as this will reveal any problems in the user's configurable settings.

This user clearly failed to test his settings ahead of time, otherwise he would've seen this _error & had the chance to fix it.

Theerror he got is called a PRICE_RELATIONSHIP _error_. This is when the maths behind your LimitPrice and StopLoss is the wrong way round. i.e. you are trying to trigger a stop loss order at a price that is lower then stop loss itself.

Thanks for saying this, because now you're just proving my point. So if it really was my mistake like you say, why did the bot placed a buy order? If I used wrong settings like you keep blaming me for, than the bot shouldn't have even worked in the first place.
Here you say that this error is called a "PRICE_RELATIONSHIP _error_" and it happens like you say, when "you are trying to trigger a stop loss order at a price that is lower then stop loss itself" - meaning that because the Pump & Dump was going up and down, when your slow bot tried to set up the StopLoss order, it wasn't able to because the price had already gone down. And I even used a very safe and conservative StopLoss of -40% of the original price.

Just imagine buying a $300 bot, to have it mislead you into thinking it didn't work, but then worse than that, it bought the coins without setting any TakeProfit or StopLoss orders.
Making you ride a Pump & Dump coin for 7 minutes fully unaware that your money is all gone, because the bot actually bought the coins without even letting you know.

5. If your bot is so good like you say it is, why won't you refund me my $300 and sell my spot to another member for $500? You claimed to have stopped the sales to avoid saturating the bot, just remove my license, refund me my money and sell it to someone else. Problem solved.



Final notes:
It's way easier to blame it on others when you have an inconsistent product that doesn't work. Your bot should have been programmed to keep working after an "OCO error", but it didn't, and that error costed me and other members thousands of dollars. That bug that happened, it didn't just happen to me, it happened to other members aswell. Stay away from dealing with this seller, he will keep censoring you, gaslighting, and finding excuses after excuses.
Just refund me my money and sell my spot to another person, it's that simple.

[hackatton]

there are 2 risks in here. one would be the bot issue or malfunctions and second one would be the channels admins prepump. In both cases you would lose money.

So this is a very risky way to make money. More risky than gambling or betting.

[Burns]

there are 2 risks in here. one would be the bot issue or malfunctions and second one would be the channels admins prepump. In both cases you would lose money.

So this is a very risky way to make money. More risky than gambling or betting.

Correct. With the way this bot is coded, you better worry about the bugs, they will liquidate your balance.

[Favorit]

Correct. With the way this bot is coded, you better worry about the bugs, they will liquidate your balance.

If the issue with the bot is fixed then you would lose money 95% of the times with the prepump.

[popZmoke]

i'm just wondering why ur not checking ur binance wallet after receiving an error lol.

anyway was matter of time before someone would open such a topic

[Burns]

i'm just wondering why ur not checking ur binance wallet after receiving anerror lol.

anyway was matter of time before someone would open such a topic

Honestly you're right I should've, but I put too much faith in this bot that I wasn't expecting this to happen.


UPDATE: This deal dispute is still going, the seller still refuses to refund me and kicked me from the bot support group on Discord. So not only have I paid $300 that I'll never see again, I also won't have access to any future updates to the bot. He's such a SCAMMER.

[SIM-3558566]

Sounds like a shitty bot.