[SUI-3183372]

Remember a month or two ago when the Appraisers put out this thread here. Hopefully you guys remember the thread.... the one that made it clear that the Appraisers put no thought or regard into what they review, it doesn't even matter if they even understand the topic, simply that they will blindly review your product for you. In this case, the reviewer blindly gave ABOVE perfect scores despite not understanding the method, and the method being 100% copy and pasted. After being called out, the OP modified their review to be sub-perfect, but still far too high...

That thread was quickly followed by this thread, another display of The Appraisers having NOT THE SLIGHTEST CLUE AS TO WHAT THEY'RE REVIEWING, simply, they just like to hear themselves speak. In this case, the reviewer spends the vast majority of the time talking about formatting and making statements irrelevant to the review. In the 16 "paragraphs" that make up this review, you may be able to say 1 of them is actually about the method(s), and even that's a stretch, the rest cover formatting, discord groups, etc.

So, to put it lightly, Appraisers did two dumb things in the span of two days. After that though, nothing, didn't hear a thing from them until today. Maybe it's because they were only doing good, and good stuff doesn't stir up drama like bad does, or maybe they've just been dormant for a while, but alas, Appraisers are back in the hot seat.

If you look at the two above threads (mainly Wolf's as the majority of the critical replies to Caligio's were deleted by moderators), you'll see that other users other than myself were upset and bothered by the Appraisers approach to reviews and their complete lack of regard for user safety. We warned them that their carelessness and lack of understanding were going to lead to users getting scammed, and that's EXACTLY what happened.

Quick vouches for a Bitcoin double spending service, not understanding how it works or the source of the funds that he is receiving: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...id58702140 (Pic) All Quick does here is vouch that money is SOMEHOW coming into his wallet, he doesn't know how, could be fraud, could be a scam (it was), could be any number of ways, but all he cares about is the fact that money is somehow entering his wallet. This is good enough to give the product his endorsement.

Turns out, the OP of that thread was simply just SENDING Quick BTC to his wallet, to make it appear as if Quick wasq actually doing something. However, Quick's lack of knowing wtf is going on on a product that he decided to review combined with the fact that the product that Quick reviewed is nothing more than scam, has led to others being scammed: https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?ti...d=58702605

I won't even get into how easily this could have been a team effort by Quick and the scammer, as I don't think Quick is in a position that he needs to be scamming, but idk the dude, make your own judgements.

Good work Appraisers. Give yourselves a pat on the back.

[Nas]

Yeah, that's what happens when there is a group centered around verrifying authenticity on marketplace threads.
It's hard to vet products and have the same vetting procedure on a wide range of products while still being accurate.
Kinda feel bad for Druze.

[int]

I don't think Quick intentionally supported the scammer (Parabellum), but I think he could have put more effort. Should have been more obvious to Quick that the money was appearing in an odd way.

[Fruitcake]

As a consumer of various products on this side. I personally think this group is bullshit, getting free shit by pasting the Appraiser things onto a genuine thread and product leaving a biased review based on their free collection of the said product/service.

[tweety]

always entertaining to see the shit you post here lmao

its pretty scummy to do that, most new users look at the appraisers group as something thats official, pretty disappointing

[Divined]

It's always entertaining to see your threads about my group.
I never received any BTC from this man, Quick was reviewing this dude's double spending method which was shady and was working on editing it to let everyone know it's fraud.
You could've known all this by msging me, instead you want to make all these threads to stir drama, truly disappointing.
Quick admitted that he should've given the BTC method to someone else who knew a bit more which is true, he learned from his mistake and hopefully it won't happen again in the future.

If you have any future feedback about my group or my members PM me instead please, thanks.

[SUI-3183372]

Yeah, that's what happens when there is a group centered around verrifying authenticity on marketplace threads.
It's hard to vet products and have the same vetting procedure on a wide range of products while still being accurate.
Kinda feel bad for Druze.

That why the last time their leadership reached out to me in private I strongly recommended to them that they only review products that they have a coherent understanding of. Their reviews and appraisals should mean something to the people who read them. Right now, based off of their history, I can with a pretty high degree of certainty say the following things when I see a review by the Appraisers

1. The Appraiser hasn't actually tried the method
   
2. If they have tried the method, they don't understand the method
   
3. The final review/score is either paid for or pulled out of thin air

To be honest, with their track record SO FAR, I think buying an Appraiser's endorsed product actually increases your chances of being scammed or disappointed.

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It's always entertaining to see your threads about my group.
I never received any BTC from this man, Quick was reviewing this dude's double spending method which was shady and was working on editing it to let everyone know it's fraud.
You could've known all this by msging me, instead you want to make all these threads to stir drama, truly disappointing.

This is my mistake, I thought Quick was you with a name change. Editing the thread.
OP edited.

[Divined]

That why the last time their leadership reached out to me in private I strongly recommended to them that they only review products that they have a coherent understanding of. Their reviews and appraisals should mean something to the people who read them. Right now, based off of their history, I can with a pretty high degree of certainty say the following things when I see a review by the Appraisers

1. The Appraiser hasn't actually tried the method
   
2. If they have tried the method, they don't understand the method
   
3. The final review/score is either paid for or pulled out of thin air
   

To be honest, with their track record SO FAR, I think buying an Appraiser's endorsed product actually increases your chances of being scammed or disappointed.

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This is my mistake, I thought Quick was you with a name change. Editing the thread.
OP edited.

We literally have a few dozen reviews, yes we have a couple or a few bad ones but we're learning from our mistakes and moving on. If you could put feedback in a more nice manner rather than try to stir the pot then we can all make this a better place, but you're literally always out around the corner trying to "expose" us.

[Lavish Living]

It's always entertaining to see your threads about my group.
I never received any BTC from this man, Quick was reviewing this dude's double spending method which was shady and was working on editing it to let everyone know it's fraud.
You could've known all this by msging me, instead you want to make all these threads to stir drama, truly disappointing.
Quick admitted that he should've given the BTC method to someone else who knew a bit more which is true, he learned from his mistake and hopefully it won't happen again in the future.

If you have any future feedback about my group or my members PM me instead please, thanks.

Kick that kid from the group. He pretty much got paid $107 to help scam $1.7k by using Appraisers good name for a fake review.

[DOG]

That why the last time their leadership reached out to me in private I strongly recommended to them that they only review products that they have a coherent understanding of. Their reviews and appraisals should mean something to the people who read them. Right now, based off of their history, I can with a pretty high degree of certainty say the following things when I see a review by the Appraisers

1. The Appraiser hasn't actually tried the method
   
2. If they have tried the method, they don't understand the method
   
3. The final review/score is either paid for or pulled out of thin air
   

To be honest, with their track record SO FAR, I think buying an Appraiser's endorsed product actually increases your chances of being scammed or disappointed.

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This is my mistake, I thought Quick was you with a name change. Editing the thread.
OP edited.

Lol. With our track record?

Out of dozens and dozens review we probably did one or two mistakes, like eveyone. Even staff makes mistakes.

But it’s fine, if you want drama then get it. We don’t care and we will continue our services for the good of the marketplace.

Peace out.

[Nas]

It's always entertaining to see your threads about my group.
I never received any BTC from this man, Quick was reviewing this dude's double spending method which was shady and was working on editing it to let everyone know it's fraud.
You could've known all this by msging me, instead you want to make all these threads to stir drama, truly disappointing.
Quick admitted that he should've given the BTC method to someone else who knew a bit more which is true, he learned from his mistake and hopefully it won't happen again in the future.

If you have any future feedback about my group or my members PM me instead please, thanks.

IMO he should have edited the review with a warning so members can see it ASAP instead of waiting for him to polish up the review.
He deserves a kick not a slap on his wrist.

[SUI-3183372]

Quick was reviewing this dude's double spending method which was shady and was working on editing it to let everyone know it's fraud.

Quick blindly made a review. The review still persists to this very moment. It's unfortunate that Quick made his realizations too late, however he made his bed, he has to sleep in it now. Maybe a bit of research into the product you're reviewing is something you should encourage your members to do before posting. Seems like their main goal is to rush to publication and deal with the facts and the backlash from disregarding the facts later.

I don't reach out to your privately because this is a much more effective way to hold your group accountable. Maybe we won't be friends after this is all' over, but quite frankly I don't think either of us care. I just want to see a not shit group giving reviews so people stop getting scammed. You're in a position to be this "not shit group" but you continuously allow your members to sell you short an tarnish your image.

[Divined]

IMO he should have edited the review with a warning so members can see it ASAP instead of waiting for him to polish up the review.

Yes we are trying to work the fastest we can man, but Quick has been going through some shit I can't really say here and his actions are a bit slower than usual.
People need to be patient and reach out to us first before trying to "expose" us.

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Quick blindly made a review. The review still persists to this very moment. It's unfortunate that Quick made his realizations too late, however he made his bed, he has to sleep in it now. Maybe a bit of research into the product you're reviewing is something you should encourage your members to do before posting. Seems like their main goal is to rush to publication and deal with the facts and the backlash from disregarding the facts later.

I don't reach out to your privately because this is a much more effective way to hold your group accountable. Maybe we won't be friends after this is all' over, but quite frankly I don't think either of us care. I just want to see a not shit group giving reviews so people stop getting scammed. You're in a position to be this "not shit group" but you continuously allow your members to sell you short an tarnish your image.

There's no bed and nothing to sleep in, the review he made still shows that you can profit from it even if it is double spending, he just needs to let people know that it's blackhat and disallowed.

Regardless we hold no official status and you are not forced to read our reviews or follow our word but I will tell you that we 100% always try our best with our reviews and we learn from our mistakes. Your post simply shows that you have the "name and shame" mentality rather than the "help you improve" mentality. Read any of Caligio's or 01's reviews, we've exposed people for posting public methods before and we also commend people on their unique and brand new methods. Sometimes there's cracks that bad reviews slip through, not on purpose. We're not vigilantes, we're merely trying to do as much as we can to make this a better place.

[Lavish Living]

There's no bed and nothing to sleep in, the review he made still shows that you can profit from it even if it is double spending, he just needs to let people know that it's blackhat and disallowed.

He posted on the deal dispute that he most likely received the “profit” directly from the seller. Ie he was manipulated and essentially paid by the seller to post a positive review. Zzzz

[Quick]

I’m not related to that scam, I provided further details about this in the dispute thread. I saw that a user already purchased and technically vouched for him so when I had that profit transaction it didn’t seem sketchy to me or anything which led me to post my review. I cannot be an expert at all fields and BTC isn’t my thing. Looking at things now I wish I didn’t take up that review offer. I present my deepest excuses to the victims and am willing to present my resignation from the appraisers if it’s deemed necessary as I see that I tarnished the group’s reputation by getting tricked into this crisis. And you are right I value my principles and reputation above anything else, I will never scam for any amount as the time I spent here and knowledge I acquired and the potential future knowledge are worth way more than this.