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Remove eBook Section entirely / Huge Revamp / Remove Reviewers

@Staff - Please do not close this with just "No.", I think I, and many others would like an actual reason, please also read the whole thread through aswell.

It's 100% shit. Every eBook there is public knowledge.

& the reviewer's team is just a bunch of kids who haven't got a knowledge in most eBooks and will just be like "yeah, it's 100% unique duuude" because they've never cared to look at any other eBook marketplace, and they got a free eBook.

Also, no working monetising/similar method is going to be released, if it worked, why would they need to release it? Exactly. "I need quick cash" isn't a real reason, if you're making "$5000 a week" when you're trying to sell an eBook for $15 a piece.

The eBook section/reviewers either needs a serious revamp (such as removing all eBooks that contain monetising methods) or just get rid of it, it's a waste of server space (;

I would reckon the most viable one is to remove all sorts of monetising eBooks and make a secondary sub-subject under "Monetising Methods" where people can put download links on $harecash/etc, also making sure the other referral section doesn't get clogged up with monetising eBooks.


There also comes this problem, where eBooks are simply written with a new title or the wording vaguely changed around.
(Aug 25, 2011 05:03 PM)0dayleet Wrote:  About 96% of the eBooks on Hack Forums aren't working.
About 80% of them are posted with a different name.

Read THIS THREAD by Ηεαυεη⇔Ηειι ♠™, clearly shows how bad the eBook section & reviewers are not only is it a direct rip from another forum's free eBook section, one of the top points of orginality was "never seen an eBook as a .exe".


Itachi Uchiha writes that himself and other original reviewers spent hours combing the internet for copies of eBooks. However, the reviewers is now saturated with the typical HF leech kid. This further strengthens the motion to atleast remove monetising "methods".

Here is a stripped down version of his post.

(Aug 26, 2011 07:31 AM)Itachi Uchiha Wrote:  Honestly, by even entering the ebook section, you shouldn't expect anything other than the usually crap. I've known that for a while now.

How to make money (Fail).

Make a thousand dollars (Fail)

The only definite thing that I've seen work %100, is "how to get porn accounts." "How to get steam accounts".


(Aug 26, 2011 07:42 AM)Uprising Wrote:  It seemed like the only thing that could get you accepted to the group was the use of, as you said, very flamboyant English. I remember reading so many of the applicant's "reviews" and just laughing.. It's like being experienced in ebooks was completely overlooked/not cared for.


One of the biggest problems with the eBook section is that it is alot of simply rebranding and selling free, giveaway eBooks, as Ariton goes into detail here

(Aug 26, 2011 07:51 AM)ariton Wrote:  People just download a big pack of monetizing eBooks from internet or HF, and they only change it a little bit and they put titles like: How to make $50, $100, $500+ a day and even more. If they really earned $500+ using their method, they could become a millionaire for a short time (1 Year) and I can't understand, why would a millionaire sell an eBook to earn $10, I mean if you're earning more than 500 a day, you don't even need extra $5, $10 dollars.


BioHazard is also with me on this, being an ex-reviewer himself, he also has inside insight.

(Aug 26, 2011 09:19 AM)Bad Blood Wrote:  Being an ex-Reviewer, I can honestly say that it needs major reforms. It's current system does not work. The goal of the Reviewers is to protect the buyers, and if they're not doing that, they're doing something wrong. eBooks are just assigned to whoever wants to review them, not to people who have knowledge in the field. The two parts of the review that matter the most and require the most effort are the Quality of Information and Originality, because these will state if the method is original and working. Unfortunately, this is rarely the case with most reviews.


/discuss

I will be adding stuff to the OP as people post relevant information.
You're probably going to get into shit for this, but I agree 100% with you. *waits for impending doom*.

Check out my thread I made about removing the Reviewers team and adding a team to test the ebooks.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=1651594

I like your suggestion better.

But everyone is going to say "It's your choice to buy something" or "you take the risk on purchasing an ebook", etc.
But yep. That whole section is like 1 big scam.

Also tons of these ebooks are ripped off from other places but just re-written then a watermark of the users name is placed over each page. I have actually exposed a member for doing this, but he gave my money back and I promised not to say anything. I was going to say something but feared him charging back the money he refunded.
I dont agree, I can GURANTEE that my Upcoming ebook has never been posted on Hackforums.net!

Also 8/10 are same ebooks resold without resell rights. 2/10 is legit working ebooks.

Get a new official group testing the ebooks!
removing the ebook section is not right coz there are various ebooks that have worked for a good stipulated time !
Like the steam cracker and other many ones !
It all on the customer if he wants to buy it or not !
(Aug 26, 2011 07:20 AM)Xenochrist Wrote:  You're probably going to get into shit for this, but I agree 100% with you. *waits for impending doom*.

Check out my thread I made about removing the Reviewers team.
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=1651594

I like your suggestion better.

But everyone is going to say "It's your choice to buy something" or "you take the risk on purchasing an ebook", etc.
But yep. That whole section is like 1 big scam.

Also tons of these ebooks are ripped off from other places but just re-written then a watermark of the users name is placed over each page. I have actually exposed a member for doing this, but he gave my money back and I promised not to say anything. I was going to say anything but feared him charging back my money he refunded.

You have no ideal what the reviewers have actually done for the section.

I was apart of the reviewers, when it was first opened/created by Omni.

Me, skill and others spent hours/minutes checking the internet to make sure an ebook isn't copied from anywhere else. I'm not sure if anything has changed since I left, but I was pretty hated for giving negative reviews.

What you misunderstand is that, a reviewers job isn't to check if the ebook can or can't work. The template you see they review with was actually made by Omni. Possibility of working isn't apart of that template. Some of them just went the extra mile.

Honestly, by even entering the ebook section, you shouldn't expect anything other than the usually crap. I've known that for a while now.

How to make money (Fail).

Make a thousand dollars (Fail)

The only definite thing that I've seen work %100, is "how to get porn accounts." "How to get steam accounts".
Nick Fuentes: “we need a dictatorship” to “force the people to believe what we believe or play by our rules”

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As a reviewer, I can honestly say, some of the e-books do work. You just have to find the right ones.
(Aug 26, 2011 07:31 AM)Itachi Uchiha Wrote:  but I was pretty hated for giving negative reviews.

What you misunderstand is that, a reviewers job isn't to check if the ebook can or can't work. The template you see they review with was actually made by Omni. Possibility of working isn't apart of that template. Some of them just went the extra mile.

Honestly, by even entering the ebook section, you shouldn't expect anything other than the usually crap. I've known that for a while now.

How to make money (Fail).

Make a thousand dollars (Fail)

The only definite thing that I've seen work %100, is "how to get porn accounts." "How to get steam accounts".

No dude, I know you guys have tried hard and I know you guys work hard and for the most part, you guys are good at what you do.

But, there are just too many factors that make it impossible to give an accurate review. Things such as the template not being good, not enough time to test the ebook, etc. I didn't mean to blame the Reviewers at all! Sorry if it looked like that.

I have also seen a few people say they have been scrutinized for giving bad reviews and I think that's fucked up. Really fucked up. That's why that section is such garbage, and that's why trash ebooks are allowed to be sold. I think some reviewers may feel scared to give an honest review in fear of being gang neg repped, hated, etc.

You're right on the last part, about how none of them actually work. That's why I haven't visited that section in months. You're totally right, and I just think something must be done about it because that section is like one big scam.
(Aug 26, 2011 07:35 AM)Ηεαυεη⇔Ηειι ♠™ Wrote:  But why aren't they taking in people who have knowledge on them? They take in people who can write in a very flamboyant English, I pretty much state that their selection is biased Amp, it really is.

I'm not a leader, so I do not choose who gets picked to join.

And when I review, I often test an e-book first to see if it will work before writing my review.
Its not gonna happend. Many ebooks does work. Close this thread. And the Reviewers should start to test the guides.

Like Omni said

´´Ohh Rich quick scheme didnt work. Thanks for the Feedback´´
I do agree, But I think this will not work!
You assume that the only e-Books being sold are those of making money. I, for one, created my own e-Book that has nothing to do with that. People have to not be stupid when buying those things. Researching, reading comments, checking similar e-books, etc.
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People just download a big pack of monetizing eBooks from internet or HF, and they only change it a little bit and they put titles like: How to make $50, $100, $500+ a day and even more. If they really earned $500+ using their method, they could become a millionaire for a short time (1 Year) and I can't understand, why would a millionaire sell an eBook to earn $10, I mean if you're earning more than 500 a day, you don't even need extra $5, $10 dollars.

And the other eBooks are saying: "You don't need to invest nothing, you only need 30 minutes to get this method work. Works in any country" and when you buy this method, everything is 100% different, you need to be from USA to get it working, you only need to invest 1$ and shits like that, and you're trying 5 hours to get the method working, and then... nothing at all.
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(Aug 26, 2011 07:51 AM)Saged Wrote:  You assume that the only e-Books being sold are those of making money. I, for one, created my own e-Book that has nothing to do with that. People have to not be stupid when buying those things. Researching, reading comments, checking similar e-books, etc.

Your E-book was something off-beat didn't have anything in common with Plus, it proved its point. Also the fact I always keep it as an reference with me whenever I am on HF.
(Aug 26, 2011 07:35 AM)Ηεαυεη⇔Ηειι ♠™ Wrote:  But why aren't they taking in people who have knowledge on them? They take in people who can write in a very flamboyant English, I pretty much state that their selection is biased Amp, it really is.

Who said people with knowledge are not being taken in?
Also, being a reviewer, when you are critiquing someone's e-book and you make several foolish grammatical mistakes yourself, it is pretty much the irony; hence, the emphasis on excellent spelling & grammar.

Also, not every review can be perfect. Some like it because they think it is accurate, others think the opposite.
For example:- You may have seen tons of e-books in your online life and hence you feel that a particular e-book is not original. But, the reviewer gives a 4/5 for originality because he/she has personally never seen it. That is where a difference of opinion could lead to dissatisfaction.
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Who said people with knowledge are not being taken in?

I say.

Code
Also, being a reviewer, when you are critiquing someone's e-book and you make several foolish grammatical mistakes yourself, it is pretty much the irony; hence, the emphasis on excellent spelling & grammar.

So, I have more experience and knowledge than you or any other reviewer in the deck. Grammar is useless if you aren't having the knowledge on reviewing.

Code
Also, not every review can be perfect. Some like it because they think it is accurate, others think the opposite.
For example:- You may have seen tons of e-books in your online life and hence you feel that a particular e-book is not original. But, the reviewer gives a 4/5 for originality because he/she has personally never seen it. That is where a difference of opinion could lead to dissatisfaction.

If you can exercise perfection over grammar then why not in this? Giving me an excuse are you?



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